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Will the next Presto update contain the features of the Orcad legacy pcb tool?

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DG202504226528 3 months ago

I'm at a loss in Presto.  It's like 1/10 the tool that the legacy one is it seems.  Did I just waste all my time learning Presto when you can't even seem to do a whole design without having to load up the legacy tool all the time to do simple things?  

I'd like to know what will be updated in Presto.  Does anyone have a list?  Should I just ditch Presto and learn the legacy tool properly?   Trying to do a proper design with blind and buried vias, BGAs, 10-12 layers is virtually impossible with Presto.  Tool crashes at least 2x a day.  Can't even sync with the schematic most times and need to use the legacy even for that Disappointed

Anyone have a list of new features coming down the road???

Also... to anyone that uses the legacy tool.  How does it compare to the Allegro tool?  I come from a background of using Expedition for 10 years and Altium designer for 15.

Just wondering what I should waste my time on learning... thanks all.

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    0 DG202504226528 2 months ago in reply to passedpawn

    Yeah, I'm hoping they'll let me get a single Altium license at work next year once we need to renew.  Altium is around the same price and you get a ton more.  They even have a constraint manager now as well.  The schematic side is super nice to work with and the pcb as well really.  You can actually do things like measure correctly, make parts super quickly, the cloud setup with the Explorer for project and parts management is amazing really.  

    Going to Cadence is like stepping into time warp when I was working on a Unix workstation back 30 years doing pcbs.  We had the same exact weird non connected setup back then.

    I also really miss not being able to copy stuff from one pcb to another by having them both open within the same environment.  

    Allegro needs to just bite the bullet and really fix Presto and do weekly updates and fixes till it's up to snuff like Altium did 5-6 years ago.  

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    0 passedpawn 2 months ago in reply to DG202504226528

    Funny:  a week or two ago, Cadence had a release video conf where they introduced new 25.1 features in Presto.  John Carney, their product dev manager, demo'd some of these new features.  He tried hard to measure anything, but the feature was totally not working - he had to embarrassingly move on with a "hmmm, wonder why that doesn't work".  

    I say, welcome to my world John.  

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    0 passedpawn 2 months ago in reply to passedpawn

    To be fair, I'd had some fun learning to use presto, and there are some features I really like, that work well.  Livedoc is good. Component placement works really well in Presto, especially when using Capture to select a related grouup of parts, then using the component place tool in "cluster" mode.  Gerber creation is OK, though for some reason loads of log files etc gets put into the ZIP archive.  

    The list of issues is way, way longer though.  Not gonna beat a dead horse there.  But I've been sending all my issues directly to John Carney since 23.1.  Most of them have not been fixed, so I have no confidence they will be anytime soon.  

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