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Cadence (OrCAD) Capture vs System Capture

Kenneth Wood
Kenneth Wood over 4 years ago

Has anyone moved from Cadence (OrCAD) Capture to System Capture for all new designs?

After repeated CCRs and complaints about V17.4 Capture it was suggested to me to use System Capture instead...so I looked into the program and so far not impressed.

Thoughts?

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  • Wild
    0 Wild over 4 years ago in reply to RFinley

    Mr. Finely, I couldn't agree more.

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  • Kenneth Wood
    0 Kenneth Wood over 4 years ago in reply to Wild

    Well, I don’t want to come off like a hater…I really love the Cadence tools I just want more action and more interest in feedback. V17.4 is a disaster and they know it. Bring home the code writing instead of outsourcing it all and get moving. For example, I’ve been complaining about the removal in the RMB pop-up menu, in the Capture symbol editor, for changing the name of a pin. It worked great in V16 and for some reason they removed it in V17.2 . I’ve reported this many times and even sent videos of why I wanted it back…they refuse to do it. Creating schematic symbols with tons of different pins with different names now takes longer than it did before. It reminds me of the scene in the movie “The Master” when the cult leader is asked why the book changed, he replied “this is the new material” yeah but but…”this is the new material” And that’s it folks…this is the new material and sucks to be you for wanting to change it.

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  • RFinley
    0 RFinley over 4 years ago in reply to Kenneth Wood

    I don't think you're a hater.  You have to support your customers.  Altium is a competitor I credit for me being able to afford personal licenses (bypassing the which-tool-is-better argument.)

    P*DS is dead.   Exp* is the future.  They didn't fix the zero width board outline divide_by_zero crash until two years ago.  Partial design reuse is impossible.  Netclasses only on the top tier.  No 3D transparency.  IDX is a cost-add.   I could go on.   Siemens paid $4B for them.   It is what it is.  Can't translate Allegro back to P*DS?    Do you have Allegro 16.3 working?   Tech support won't talk to you until you do.   It won't run on windows 10.

    Cadence leads in the thing that matters most:  find blocking DFM/DFA/SI/powerSI/mechanical mistakes, in real time in some cases, before we fab it out so that it reaches the test bench as fast as possible.  Then, software can get started to find and complain about the rest of the mistakes.

    I fully support anything Cadence does that discourages people from falling for the slick marketing of lesser rivals with my understanding of who is making the purchase decision.  Altium:  "ours has 3D!  Isn't it pretty?  Look!"   Cadence:  "our 3D has transparency and your board will actually work.."  Altium:  "online library!"  and so forth.

    I am an Orcad evangelist with incoming engineers with HDL and Altium experience.  Worse, I am super conscious that twenty years ago, I personally fought really hard to keep Scicards around because routing in BoardStation really sucked.  I understand engineers love low-hanging fruit including sch/brd crossprobing with Boardstation. 

    The most amazing projects I have completed were done on the worst software (including P-CAD, that couldn't validate negative power/gnd plane connections.)

    We missed schedule by months on all of them.

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  • steve
    0 steve over 4 years ago in reply to Kenneth Wood

    So to bring the Pin editor window up to change the pin name / type try SHIFT + G (it used to be right click or CTRL +E).

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  • Kenneth Wood
    0 Kenneth Wood over 4 years ago in reply to steve

    It used to be in the RMB pop-up menu just like it still is with the net labels in the schematic window.

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