• Skip to main content
  • Skip to search
  • Skip to footer
Cadence Home
  • This search text may be transcribed, used, stored, or accessed by our third-party service providers per our Cookie Policy and Privacy Policy.

  1. Community Forums
  2. OpenLabs
  3. pressure far field boundary condition

Stats

  • State Verified Answer
  • Replies 7
  • Subscribers 6
  • Views 7845
  • Members are here 0
More Content

pressure far field boundary condition

sriluta
sriluta over 3 years ago

Hey, I am investigating the flow in a turbine with only one stator. For the outlet I would like to set a pressure far field BC, because I don't now the static pressure in the outlet. For this I have extended my domain length by 20 times the chord length of the blade. So how can I set this BC, with the Bc external for the outlet ? Iam using Omnis v2,
thx

  • Sign in to reply
  • Cancel
  • domen
    0 domen over 3 years ago

    Hello!

    forgive my curiosity, but for a far-field BC you still need the static pressure. What would be the advantage of a far-field in this case?

    In Omnis you should be able to set the external BC by changing the type:

    • Cancel
    • Vote Up 0 Vote Down
    • Sign in to reply
    • Verify Answer
    • Cancel
  • sriluta
    0 sriluta over 3 years ago in reply to domen

    Hello, thx for reply. Ah so the typ selection to " external" was right, as I thought :)

    so i would like to use a fixed bc for the outlet. If all flow fluctuations up to the outlet are damped, then I can also use such a boundary condition. To do this, I run several simulations and change my domain length for this, if the flow becomes independent of the domain length, it fits, otherwise I try to find the domain length until all fluctuations are damped. And for this I use a far-field boundary condition at the exit. Ah okay, well maybe I can estimate the static pressure also with rule of thumb ?

    I am investigating a compressible flow, have defined the total pressure, total temperature and velocity angle ("Arctg(Vt/Vz)" at "Angle from axial direction") at the inlet, then the mentioned far field boundary condition with a static pressure at the outlet. Unfortunately, my solution diverges with a 100% mass error. The exit mass flow is 0 kg/s

    ( hmm, I see now for the external setup I didn't use the same Values of k and epsilon like in the inlet maybe this is the mistake ? )

    • Cancel
    • Vote Up 0 Vote Down
    • Sign in to reply
    • Verify Answer
    • Cancel
  • domen
    0 domen over 3 years ago in reply to sriluta

    For EXT BC, the mass flow rate is zero. The solver doesn't output how much mass is flowing in or out of the domain.

     Generally, we avoid EXT conditions when we can use a simple static pressure: the far-field requires the knowledge of the velocity and it must be placed really far from any gradient. Static pressure is a much more robust condition. 

    • Cancel
    • Vote Up 0 Vote Down
    • Sign in to reply
    • Verify Answer
    • Cancel
  • sriluta
    0 sriluta over 3 years ago in reply to domen

    ah thank you very much for this information, my supervisor also rather advised me against this bc. Do you know how I could estimate the static pressure at the outlet with a rule of thumb ? I have the total pressure at the inlet, I could possibly find out the total loss from the literature. 

    • Cancel
    • Vote Up 0 Vote Down
    • Sign in to reply
    • Verify Answer
    • Cancel
  • sriluta
    0 sriluta over 3 years ago in reply to sriluta

    maybe with these formula ? So its the total pressure to static pressure ratio but for isentropic flow. Therefore I I would subtract the total pressure drop from the total pressure at the inlet and with a Mach number at the outlet I could estimate the static pressure ? Or maybe an easier way ? :)

    • Cancel
    • Vote Up 0 Vote Down
    • Sign in to reply
    • Verify Answer
    • Cancel
>
Cadence Guidelines

Community Guidelines

The Cadence Design Communities support Cadence users and technologists interacting to exchange ideas, news, technical information, and best practices to solve problems and get the most from Cadence technology. The community is open to everyone, and to provide the most value, we require participants to follow our Community Guidelines that facilitate a quality exchange of ideas and information. By accessing, contributing, using or downloading any materials from the site, you agree to be bound by the full Community Guidelines.

© 2025 Cadence Design Systems, Inc. All Rights Reserved.

  • Terms of Use
  • Privacy
  • Cookie Policy
  • US Trademarks
  • Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information