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Difference between V(P1,T1) <+ 0; and V(P1) <+ V(T1); in verilog A when they are used in 'if -else statement'

KiranTej
KiranTej over 8 years ago

Difference between V(P1,T1) <+ 0; and V(P1) <+ V(T1); in Verilog A 

I think V(P1, T1) <+ 0; would mean voltage difference between node P1 and node T1 is 0 and 

V(P1) <+ V(T1) would mean potential difference between P1 to gnd is equal to T1 to gnd.

I feel these statements kind of means the same, but when I used these statements in 'if block' in 'Verilog A', use of each statement gives different results, can someone please explain what difference does it make between these statements.

Also, can we use these statements in an 'if block'?

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  • Andrew Beckett
    Andrew Beckett over 8 years ago +1
    They're not identical - because the first is like having a zero-volt source between the two nets, and the second is like a voltage-controlled voltage source. So that means that in the first case current…
  • Frank Wiedmann
    Frank Wiedmann over 8 years ago in reply to KiranTej +1
    If you want to learn how to best model a switch (and why), I would suggest you to take a look at chapter 3 of the Mixed-Signal Methodology Guide, which is available at https://www.eetimes.com/author.asp…
  • Andrew Beckett
    Andrew Beckett over 8 years ago in reply to KiranTej +1
    Yes, although you may need to take care of the fact that this is discontinuous - probably the link that Frank pointed to covers how to better handle that (I didn't check). The examples on the Designer…
  • Andrew Beckett
    Andrew Beckett over 8 years ago in reply to KiranTej

    Quite simply, the switch changes position instantaneously - and so the impedance of the switch changes instantaneously. That means there would be a discontinuity in the current through the switch or the voltage across the switch. In the models on the Designer's Guide site, it does at least announce the discontinuity, and that's better than nothing. Circuit simulators don't really like ideal behaviour like this, and a model will work better if it is more realistic about modelling the transition. I'm sure this is covered in Ken and Olaf's book (I don't have a copy with me today so can't give you a reference), and is certainly covered in the Mixed-Signal Methodology Guide that Frank mentioned earlier - it's in the section Analog Best Practices from page 55 onwards.

    Regards,

    Andrew.

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