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how to count the number of iteration and check time

Yea Chul
Yea Chul over 4 years ago

Hi all,

i am wondering how to count iteration to get to final solution and check time per a iteration

suppose that dc analysis is simulated, in order to find solution, iteration is started
at the moment, how long it will take per a iteration (time) and how many iteration there are

could someone help me in this

thanks in advance 


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  • Frank Wiedmann
    Frank Wiedmann over 4 years ago

    The Spectre Diagnose Mode might help you (see https://support.cadence.com/apex/ArticleAttachmentPortal?id=a1Od0000000u8vxEAA).

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  • Yea Chul
    Yea Chul over 4 years ago in reply to Frank Wiedmann

    it's really helpful thank u so much

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  • Frank Wiedmann
    Frank Wiedmann over 4 years ago in reply to Yea Chul

    You might also find https://www.cadence.com/content/dam/cadence-www/global/en_US/documents/company/Events/CDNLive/Secured/Proceedings/SV/2018/MIX207.pdf and https://www.cadence.com/content/dam/cadence-www/global/en_US/documents/company/Events/CDNLive/Secured/Proceedings/EU/2019/cus/CUS08.pdf useful.

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  • Yea Chul
    Yea Chul over 4 years ago in reply to Frank Wiedmann

    really thank u for your kind and fruitful reply

    i think i understand the diagnostic function on transient simulation attributed to u

    and here's one more question, is there any way to check dc solution (initial solution) like diagnostic

    what my problem is that bad initial condition for transient simulation keep making bad pivot 

    so i want to dig into initial solution information more in detail

    any tips for this?

    and really thank u again

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  • Frank Wiedmann
    Frank Wiedmann over 4 years ago in reply to Yea Chul

    The Spectre Diagnose Mode also gives detailed convergence information for the dc analysis.

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  • Yea Chul
    Yea Chul over 4 years ago in reply to Frank Wiedmann

    you're right. we can also check diagnose result from dc analysis

    but what I meant is that I want to check pre-simulation information in which initial condition is calculated before the transient simulation

    for instance, there are bad pivot information like fig 1.

    what I want to do is to compare the CPU times. I think the time difference is originating from the number of bad pivots

    However, I am unable to find the time that spectre takes to solve one bad pivot point (and/or iterations to solve one bad pivot) 

    Additionally,

    2. I have 1 LTE problem. Although I can find which nodes have LTE error, can I also know the time information about time taken to process the LTE

    3. time to fix newton iteration

    4. also, I would like to check the CPU time per transient step. there is no information about the CPU time as you can see in fig 2 

    if my pre-assumption is wrong, please let me know the guide
    thank u so much
     

    fig 1.

    fig 2.

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  • Frank Wiedmann
    Frank Wiedmann over 4 years ago in reply to Yea Chul

    For the tran analysis, you can access some additional information with the Results Browser, see pages 18-19 of https://www.cadence.com/content/dam/cadence-www/global/en_US/documents/company/Events/CDNLive/Secured/Proceedings/EU/2019/cus/CUS08.pdf 

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  • Andrew Beckett
    Andrew Beckett over 4 years ago in reply to Frank Wiedmann

    I rather doubt that knowing the CPU time taken or numbers of iterations is going to help you very much in solving what appears to be a circuit or modelling issue.

    The best way forward here is probably to talk to customer support so that we can help you diagnose the real problem.

    Andrew

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  • Yea Chul
    Yea Chul over 4 years ago in reply to Andrew Beckett

    thank u for your guide

    where do i forward this?

    in cadence support site?

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  • Andrew Beckett
    Andrew Beckett over 4 years ago in reply to Yea Chul

    On that page, go to Cases->Submit Case.

    Andrew

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