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How to calculate the capacitance of a Varactor?

HamidKhatibi
HamidKhatibi over 11 years ago

Two different methods give me different curves (Cap. vs DC bias voltage). However, initial value, final value and also the capacitance at zero bias voltage for both methods are the same.

I use ADE L to calculate the capacitance of a varactor in a desired frequency. The first method was to use AC analysis. Taking the imaginary part of the current and dividing by frequency(rad/s) is the capacitance calculated by this method. The other method was to simply using SP analysis and then the imaginary part of Y11 divided by frequency(rad/s) would be the capacitance. I sweep the DC voltage across the capacitor and get the same final and middle values from both methods. However the slope of the curve is about 1.9 times different and I cannot guess why and which one I can trust.

Any idea? 

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  • ShawnLogan
    ShawnLogan over 11 years ago

     Hi Hamid,

     When you compute the capacitance using Y11, what frequency are you using? Are you familiar with this:

     

    /wps/mypoc/cos?uri=deeplinkmin:ViewSolution;solutionNumber=11180984;searchHash=8c16b1512d265566912bf8deaedac628
     
    I am wondering if the frequency you are using is not the same between the two analysis except for the few points you mention. 
     
    Shawn

     

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  • HamidKhatibi
    HamidKhatibi over 11 years ago

    Hi Shawn

    Thanks for your answer.

    The frequency I have used is the same for both analyses. Both are in 40GHz.

    Besides, what you mentioned, is it a link? Definitely I have no idea about it :-)

     

    Best

    Hamid 

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  • ShawnLogan
    ShawnLogan over 11 years ago

     Hi Hamid,

     

    The URL was pointing to a Cadence solution concerning the derivation of y11 from the sp analysis. The support number is:

     20148716. I was able to access the support article by doing a search with this number. Perhaps you can try, The title of the article is " How to calculate y parameters using SpectreMDL?". I appears the expected syntax to obtain y11 is not the expected syntax.

     

    Shawn

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  • HamidKhatibi
    HamidKhatibi over 11 years ago

    Hi Shawn

    Thanks again for your response. It seems that at Cornell I do not have access to those support files. Is there any way for me to get that link?

     

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    Hamid 

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  • ShawnLogan
    ShawnLogan over 11 years ago

    Hi Hamid,

     

    I am only a Cadence customer and hence can not provide any information as to why you cannot access their support site. Sorry! Perhaps you need to speak with your Cadence representative at Cornell.

     

    Sorry,

     

    Shawn 

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  • ShawnLogan
    ShawnLogan over 11 years ago

     HI Hamid,

     

    One other thought cam to mind. You mentioned that the capacitances matched between the two analyses at a few points, but the slopes were significantly different. I was wondering if the frequencies used in the sp analysis and AC analysis were different and if the frequency step size is not sufficiently small. Specifically, if one analysis used only a few points per decade and the other contained a few points per linear range, since the C-V characteristic is non-linear and your delta frequency step is different between the two analyses, you may compute a significantly different slope. Have you tried using the same frequency scales for both analyses and increasing the number of frequency steps per decade?

     

    Shawn

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  • HamidKhatibi
    HamidKhatibi over 11 years ago

    Hi Shawn

    Both analyses are done only at 40GHz. 

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  • ShawnLogan
    ShawnLogan over 11 years ago

     Hi Hamid,

     

    I guess without any further information, I would try to run a large signal analysis using a 40 GHz sinusoid at a few amplitudes (one to mimic small signal case) and compute the varactor capacitance from the resulting impedance. This is what I typically do to determine the impact of its non-linear capacitance as a function of waveform amplitude. Hence, perform a transient analysis, determine the impedance at 40 GHz (DFT function at 40 GHz) and compute the effective capacitance to compare with your AC and sp analyses.

     

    I hope this helps resolve the issue.

     

    Shawn

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