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Query on Harmonic Port element in analogLib

engrvip
engrvip over 8 years ago

Hi


 In what applications is harmonic port required.

In user guide it mentions that this element is required when different impedance need to be set for different harmonics.

Can somebody tell application in which such requirement is needed in port element.

Regards

Vipul

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    Andrew Beckett over 8 years ago

    Hi palmrunner,

    Having done some experiments and some checks of the CCRs, this has been a long-standing issue with the "xf" being part of hbnoise. The good news is that in MMSIM15.1 together with IC617 ISR3 and later, there is now an explicit "hbxf" analysis on the Choose Analysis form, and if you run a multi-tone HB analysis together with this, you will get "hbxf_mt" on the Direct Plot form. 

    It was always an anomaly that if you just wanted to do an hb xf analysis you had to run hbnoise and turn noise off - not a great use model. Unfortunately it seems the original bug (multi-tone xf results not appearing in the direct plot form) has not been fixed in any version, but I think it's far more likely that people will use the explicit hbxf analysis as that's far more logical. 

    Of course, to access this you'll need to update to a new enough IC617 release, and also either MMSIM15.1 or SPECTRE16.1 (rather than MMSIM14.1 ISR7 which is what you're using currently).

    BTW, the "new" post button being missing was probably a symptom of a sporadic problem at the moment; I have a similar issue that the "rich text" support doesn't always show up and I sometimes have to force reload pages in the browser to make it work (I have a ticket open to try to fix this). As moderator I potentially could split out your post into a new thread - but since we're pretty much done now I'll leave it alone just in case it breaks...

    Regards,

    Andrew.

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  • Andrew Beckett
    Andrew Beckett over 8 years ago

    Hi palmrunner,

    Having done some experiments and some checks of the CCRs, this has been a long-standing issue with the "xf" being part of hbnoise. The good news is that in MMSIM15.1 together with IC617 ISR3 and later, there is now an explicit "hbxf" analysis on the Choose Analysis form, and if you run a multi-tone HB analysis together with this, you will get "hbxf_mt" on the Direct Plot form. 

    It was always an anomaly that if you just wanted to do an hb xf analysis you had to run hbnoise and turn noise off - not a great use model. Unfortunately it seems the original bug (multi-tone xf results not appearing in the direct plot form) has not been fixed in any version, but I think it's far more likely that people will use the explicit hbxf analysis as that's far more logical. 

    Of course, to access this you'll need to update to a new enough IC617 release, and also either MMSIM15.1 or SPECTRE16.1 (rather than MMSIM14.1 ISR7 which is what you're using currently).

    BTW, the "new" post button being missing was probably a symptom of a sporadic problem at the moment; I have a similar issue that the "rich text" support doesn't always show up and I sometimes have to force reload pages in the browser to make it work (I have a ticket open to try to fix this). As moderator I potentially could split out your post into a new thread - but since we're pretty much done now I'll leave it alone just in case it breaks...

    Regards,

    Andrew.

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