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N-Path Filter IIP3

ThaoCao
ThaoCao over 2 years ago

Hi everyone,
I am trying to design an N-Path Filter with fLO=1GHz
But i dont know how to simulate the IIP3 of N-Path Filter on cadence spectre.
Can you give me some guide.
Thank you

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  • Andrew Beckett
    Andrew Beckett over 2 years ago

    I'm not that familiar with N-Path filters, but I don't really see why it would be particularly different from measuring the IIP3 with any other circuit (it's like a mixer, except presumably the input and output frequencies are the same). So you should be able to use a 3-tone harmonic balance, or a 1-tone harmonic balance with Rapid IP3 (or a 1-tone shooting PSS with Rapid IP3).

    Andrew

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  • ThaoCao
    ThaoCao over 2 years ago in reply to Andrew Beckett

    Thank you for replying me.

    I think it quite similar to simulating IIP3 of mixer but i haven't simulate IIP3 of mixer yet. 

    I have search on google and find the method of 2-tones measurement: if the center frequency of 1 GHz , we will put two tones of 1.1GHz and 0.9GHz at the input, for example.
    Then I use PSS to simulation but I dont know how to put two tone at the input.
    Another problem that when plot pac result, there is a parameter of input power extrapolation point (dBm), i dont know what does it mean and how to choose its value.
    Thank you.
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  • Tawna
    Tawna over 2 years ago in reply to ThaoCao

    There are workshops in the software hierarchy that will help you set up an IP3 measurement.   For those with access to https://support.cadence.com, here is the Article:  SpectreRF Application Notes and Tutorials - One of our best kept secrets! 

    RF Documentation Workshop and Database:

    • Documentation can be found here: Spectre Circuit Simulator and Accelerated Parallel Simulator RF Analysis in ADE Explorer Workshop .   This is also in the documentation in the Virtuoso hierarchy.  The path will look something like this:

      <IC618 or ICADVM20.1>/lnx86/64/doc/spectreRFexplorerWorkshop/spectreRFexplorerWorkshop.pdf

    • ​Workshop database is located here: <SPECTRE21.1>/tools.lnx86/spectre/examples/Legacy/RF_Doc_Database.tar.gz

    These are great tutorials - they explain the "why" as well as the "how".

    best regards,

    Tawna

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  • wgtkano
    wgtkano over 2 years ago in reply to Tawna

    How can we download these example testbenches provided in the Simulator RF Analysis in ADE Explorer Workshop ?

    Thanks

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  • Tawna
    Tawna over 2 years ago in reply to wgtkano

    Hi Wgtkano,

    You find them in the Spectre and Virtuoso hierarchy.  Go to your linux workstation.

    "cd" to the paths that I specified above.

    You will need to gunzip and untar the RF_Doc_Database.tar.gz

    This is also documented in the Article  SpectreRF Application Notes and Tutorials - One of our best kept secrets! 

    best regards,

    Tawna

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