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BER vs BER approx

aalbason
aalbason over 1 year ago

Hello there,

I am simulating a high speed amplifier design and to evaluate the system performance I plot the so-called "bathtub curve". I have to questions regarding my current simulation:

1.) How does ViVA-XL calculate the BER approx and how reliable is it? I have read the user guide (November 2023) and cannot seem to find documentation or mention of it. I cannot find it also if I scour the internet / Cadence forums.

2.) My target is to have a BER smaller than 10e-12. My simulations so far (without the BER approx) yield only until 10e-8. How do you setup a simulation to reach as low as 10e-12? Is it just a longer simulation time (i.e. more data)?

3.) In my specific simulation the BER approx (left) is only a single point. I was expecting a number of points to form the "bathtub curve". What could be wrong with my simulation or way of calculating BER?

Thank you,

Al

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  • Tawna
    Tawna over 1 year ago

    This is a question best answered by Customer Support.  Please log in and file a Case  https://support.cadence.com .  

    There are a couple of RAKs that discuss ViVA and BER on https://support.cadence.com 

    • ViVA Eye Diagram: NRZ and PAM4 
    • ViVA Eye Diagram: NRZ, PAM3 and PAM4 (most recent)

    Also, you may want to look at the Eye Diagram Assistant. 

    • Virtuoso Visualization and Analysis XL User Guide -- Working with Graphs - Eye Diagram Assistant IC23.1
    • Virtuoso Visualization and Analysis XL User Guide -- Working with Graphs - Eye Diagram Assistant ICADVM20.1
    • Virtuoso Visualization and Analysis XL User Guide -- More About Eye Diagrams - NRZ Eye Measurements (discusses bathtub curve)

    There are also a number of Articles.

    You didn't mention the version of Spectre and Virtuoso that you are using.  Be sure to tell the Support AE that information. Here are the commands you can type in your xterm:

    spectre -W

    virtuoso -W

    best regards,

    Tawna

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