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Manufacturing Outputs Inconsistent Results

pmckeever

Trying to output gerbers for simple two-layer board in Presto. I configured all the artwork films how I'd like, and I was able to export to an archived zip once or twice, but when I try and export again after making changes... "There was an error generating outputs" just pertaining to the artwork generation. Then I'll go to try it again without changing anything: "Successfully generated outputs." Not really able to figure out the rhyme or reason to this thing; sometimes it just works, sometimes it doesn't. Every time I think I narrowed the issue down to one of the artwork films, my theory is proven incorrect when I still get an error. The worst part is the session log has ZERO details about this error. Viewlog merely tells you that there's an error. "Oh what's that, you want to know what the error is? Sorry, no details just error." Would greatly appreciate any insight anyone can provide. Thanks.

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  • 0 in reply to pmckeever

    I've noticed that shutting down the tool and re opening it before certain things really helps out.  I don't sync between Presto and the schematic anymore.  I just use the legacy pcb tool now for that.  I also always shut down and then re open the schematic tool before a sync. If I don't then most times the schematic tool will squack and tell me there's errors... closing the tool and re opening and then synching fixes this (basically meaning there was never an error to begin with).

    For months I though I was doing something dumb every time I had weird issues (since I was coming from Altium and Expedition), but I'm starting to see now that most times when I have an issue... shutting things down and re opening it will fix it.  Sometimes it takes a couple of times.  It's really odd. I'm assuming Presto has some weird memory bugs.  

    I remember Altium 2020 and 2021 had awful memory bugs that would cause all sorts of odd things to go glitchy all the time.  I'm hoping the next big update will fix the Presto bugs and make it as stable and useful as the legacy tool :)

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  • 0 in reply to pmckeever

    I've noticed that shutting down the tool and re opening it before certain things really helps out.  I don't sync between Presto and the schematic anymore.  I just use the legacy pcb tool now for that.  I also always shut down and then re open the schematic tool before a sync. If I don't then most times the schematic tool will squack and tell me there's errors... closing the tool and re opening and then synching fixes this (basically meaning there was never an error to begin with).

    For months I though I was doing something dumb every time I had weird issues (since I was coming from Altium and Expedition), but I'm starting to see now that most times when I have an issue... shutting things down and re opening it will fix it.  Sometimes it takes a couple of times.  It's really odd. I'm assuming Presto has some weird memory bugs.  

    I remember Altium 2020 and 2021 had awful memory bugs that would cause all sorts of odd things to go glitchy all the time.  I'm hoping the next big update will fix the Presto bugs and make it as stable and useful as the legacy tool :)

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  • 0 in reply to DG202504226528

    Thanks for the affirmation. I also have been beginning to feel like Presto is just not worth the fuss at this point. I've been trying learn the legacy PCB edit tool as well just feels like it's the only way to really get anything done.

  • 0 in reply to pmckeever

    Yeah, me too.  Coming from different tools, the legacy pcb tool is quite different than what I'm used to.  It's a shame they just didn't revamp and update the legacy tool with a better graphical interface.  

    Do a youtube search for Robert Feranec.  He's got a tutorial on the legacy tool (version 17.4) and it seems really good.  I watched it the first week I started learning Orcad 3 or so months back and then gave up on the legacy cause there was Presto.  Now that I've used Presto for 3 solid months, I'm going to go back to this vid and work on learning the legacy tool better.  

    I'd love to find more videos of people doing layout work from start to finish in Presto or the legacy tool.  If anyone has any links, that'd be great.  The tutorials are awesome, but they're always lacking a lot and are more high level and it's never a from scratch sort of thing.

    Right now, I do all my placement in Presto, 3d viewing in Presto... for other stuff like gerbers (legacy tool), copying circuits (legacy tool), flipping parts from top to bottom (legacy tool), measuring stuff (legacy tool.. presto is garbage for this and oh so annoying), routing (presto mostly).

    Now if they could merge Presto and the legacy tool... that'd be something else. 

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