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Nearest Neighbor Problem

vramananx
vramananx over 13 years ago

Hi

I am trying to implement the nearest neighbor problem in skill, can anyone help me with some examples and tutorials?

basically i am tryint to get the closest point in a list of points for a given x,y

I am using sortcar to do this but it is very slow since there is a huge amount of calculation goes on

So I would like to use any NNP algorithm and would like some pointers,

 regards

Venkata

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  • eDave
    eDave over 13 years ago

    Ok, I have no experience with the KD-tree method so would be interested to know how you get on. Your method of solving this problem will depend on your requirement. The time to sort all the points may not be that important if you only need to do it once but, if you have to do it often you're probably on th eright track.

     

    Have you tried this for speed:

    nearestObj = cadar(sortcar(mapcar(lambda((objId) list(axlDistance(pt1, objId ->xy), objId)), objs), 'lessp))

    Where objs is the list of objects you are measuring to and pt1 is the point. 

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  • vramananx
    vramananx over 13 years ago

    Hi Dave

    Basically I am trying to probe all the vias depending on their padstack, then foreach type of padstack I need to find the nearest GND via with the same padstack

    that being said, there are further more complications like some nets have different ground + I have to ignore whoever passes the minimum requirement

    foreach via i am checking the distance and sorting this operation takes a huge amount of time for a large dataset

    the kd-tree appeals to me since it looks like i could implement it, I have all the basic things coded, like

    a. getting the datasets (xy for all the gnd w.r.to their respective layerset)

    b. sort the list

    Now for building the tree I am thinking how to implement the following

    c. find the median then split them into 2 sets right and left sets based on if the length of the divided list is odd or even

    d. then for each left right list form childs and sort them by either x(even) or y(odd) value

     I am thinking of using

    defstruct(node data datalen depth leftmax leftdata rightmin rightdata)

    now the leftdata will have child node but i will add a depth so i do that for the right data similar child operation

     I would stop this when i reach ceiling(log(length(data)/log(2))

    Now I haven't even thought about finding the NNN using the tree

    but as you can see in the node defstruct i might add some data to each structure that way i can skip them using basic checks like if the xCoord of the input is larger than the righmin

     please let me know your thoughts

    regards

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  • eDave
    eDave over 13 years ago

    Ok, I can see how this might work (without necessarily following the k-d tree method to the letter).

    I created a simple utility that divides a design into 1mm squares. I used this to reduce the number of checks per via. It's very fast with about 8000 vias. There are limitations and flaws with my code but to go further I would be writing the utility for you ;-)

    Regards,

    Dave 

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  • knuhcrek
    knuhcrek over 13 years ago

     sketching on the back of a napkin, you could try build a list of neighbors, something like this pseudocode:

    <pre>

    pin_list_outer = getListOfAllPins();

    pin_list_inner = copy( pin_list_outer);   // need a deep copy

    foreach( pin_db_outer  pin_list_outer

        foreach( pin_db_inner pin_list_inner

              unless( pin_db_outer == pin_list_inner     // skip over collisions

                   if( axlDistance( pin_db_outer.x_coord , pin_db_inner.x_coord)  =<  yourDesiredFence AND

                      axlDistance( pin_db_outer.y_coord , pin_db_inner.y_coord)  =<  yourDesiredFence

                              neighbor_list = neighbor_array[ pin_db_outer]

                              cons( pin_db_inner neighbor_list)

                             neighbor_array[ pin_db_outer] =  neighbor_list

                  );end-if

             );end-unless

        );end-foreach-inner

    );end-foreach-outer

     

    winding up with an array, keyed by pin_db , listing all other pin_dbs that are within a square window of desired size

     

    HTH,

     

    Chris Walters

    rusty former Cadence guru

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