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Package to Package spacing

Lennie
Lennie over 7 years ago

My footprint's are created so the part outline is created on the PLACE_BOUND layer. We create this so the correct outline is used for  IDF file generation.

This layer is also used by the package to package DRC. I have not found a way to change the preset value from "0" package to package clearance. Since this places the footprints next to each other  then we cannot build the

board. Is there any way around that ?

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    Lennie over 7 years ago
    I agree and I am moving to having 3D Models instead using the height and place_bound layer but have not got to that point yet. Thanks for the comment.

    I also agree the courtyard is not the best method to space parts and the DFA function is much more accurate and has more control.

    Since I use PCBLIBRARIES to create most of my footprints I decided to move the courtyard to layer DISPLAY_TOP from the DFA_BOUND_TOP . This way if there is nothing on the DFA_BOUND_TOP layer in thefootprints the Cadence DFA software uses the PLACE_BOUND_LAYER for DFA checks.

    There is also a program that Allegro provides that adds the DFA_BOUND_LAYER but that does not work as it creates the DFA_BOUND_LAYER with the outline that extends to either the package outline or the edge of pads.

    I believe this is a good solution. Anyone disagree ?
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  • Lennie
    Lennie over 7 years ago
    I agree and I am moving to having 3D Models instead using the height and place_bound layer but have not got to that point yet. Thanks for the comment.

    I also agree the courtyard is not the best method to space parts and the DFA function is much more accurate and has more control.

    Since I use PCBLIBRARIES to create most of my footprints I decided to move the courtyard to layer DISPLAY_TOP from the DFA_BOUND_TOP . This way if there is nothing on the DFA_BOUND_TOP layer in thefootprints the Cadence DFA software uses the PLACE_BOUND_LAYER for DFA checks.

    There is also a program that Allegro provides that adds the DFA_BOUND_LAYER but that does not work as it creates the DFA_BOUND_LAYER with the outline that extends to either the package outline or the edge of pads.

    I believe this is a good solution. Anyone disagree ?
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  • gdefond
    gdefond over 5 years ago in reply to Lennie

    Tom Hausherr is the owner of PCBLibraries AND the main influence of the PC consortium in SoCal. No wonder there are so many problems. Just sayin.

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  • RFinley
    RFinley over 5 years ago in reply to gdefond

    I do have to review and change every footprint import regardless of the source.   EDABuilder, a Cadence footprint builder, leaves you with an 0.1" grid spacing every damn time and do not try to put the DFA family property in or make the DFA boundary shape match the package size for 16.6. 

    My mechanical engineers can change connectors and pushbutton switch MPNs several times a day.  I send the MPN and manufacturer to PCBLibraryExpert.  Next day service if they don't have it.  Put an end to Engineers asking for tweaks to footprints based on gut feelings divided by the time span leading to my next vacation request.   Tom's PCBLibraryExpert library is the reason I don't have blood shooting out of my ears.  

    IPC-7351C incorporates component height with solder pad dimension calcs for chip passives. 

    https://idoc.pub/documents/what-is-new-in-ipc-7351c-d47755g2dj42

    It's easy for me to defend 7351C.  

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