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Display Your Know How: Placement

PCBTech
PCBTech over 1 year ago

Which placement option is best, image A or B?

Simply answer by letter or else include any reason to support your answer. All opinions are welcome.

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  • edahub
    edahub over 1 year ago

    B

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  • excellon1
    excellon1 over 1 year ago in reply to edahub

    None of the pictures. Electrical properties need to be considered.

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  • PCBTech
    PCBTech over 1 year ago in reply to excellon1

     A very valid point! Thanks excellon1!

     

    A key point here is, what do you prioritise in your typical designs? As PCB designers, we are often forced to be the "middle-person" with the responsibility to choose between often-conflicting requirements. So ultimately the question remains; as a designer what do you consider to be the top priority?

     

    Let's see what other designer have to say...

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    PCBTech over 1 year ago in reply to excellon1

     A very valid point! Thanks excellon1!

     

    A key point here is, what do you prioritise in your typical designs? As PCB designers, we are often forced to be the "middle-person" with the responsibility to choose between often-conflicting requirements. So ultimately the question remains; as a designer what do you consider to be the top priority?

     

    Let's see what other designer have to say...

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  • Robert Finley
    Robert Finley over 1 year ago in reply to PCBTech

    Planes deliver the best low impedance conductor on your PDN network.  Traces always add parasitic inductance.  Trace impedance probably won't dominate package impedance of the bypass cap.  Looking at PDN as cumulative (series inductance) seems to work.     

    Via-in-pad to a plane delivers the ultimate PDN solution. 

    But, placing plane vias close to device pins is defensible in a design review.

    https://www.sigcon.com/Pubs/news/9_07.htm

    https://learnemc.com/decoupling-for-boards-with-closely-spaces-power-planes

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  • excellon1
    excellon1 over 1 year ago in reply to Robert Finley

    Hi there.

    The most critical things as a designer I have found over many years are.

    1 Having a competent engineering team that knows their stuff is a huge benefit.
    2 Cost / Quality of end product.
    3 Time to complete including an objective of "No Board Re Spins. aka Day 1 ready.

    From a technical perspective, I agree with Robert, PDN very very important. Placement also highly important. 
    One other area often over looked is how to get the heat out of the box so thermals really really important in particular
    if using power hungry semiconductors.

    When doing your design keep as much copper on the board as you can. Copper pours and planes everywhere. Always
    think about minimal inductance for PDN. More copper on the board means your board will be more rigid. !

    Simulation of both RF and PDN depending on the product can be highly valuable. PDN support in Allegro/Orcad.. Very good !
    Learn the tools... !

    All the best.

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    PCBTech over 1 year ago in reply to excellon1

    Excellent effort, everyone! You raise some very excellent points. Thank you for sharing your great experience within this quiz. We deeply value each view and would love to hear from other passionate members of the community.

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