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REGARDING MICROViA

girish
girish over 15 years ago
Hallo,
I am using 1249pin 0.4mm pitch , BGA & using microvia VIA-5x12 ( L1-L2,L12-L11)& buried Via-10x20(L2-L11),
this package having lot of GND pins ,If I put only micro via for the GND pins (only one ground plane will be connected ) is sufficient ?or I need to put buried via too to connect remaining GNDlayer ? how this will effect on  current carrying capacity , thermal stability ?
 stack UP as follows(12 LAYER)
L1---TOP
L2-- GND1
L3-SIG1
L4--VCC1
L5--SIG2
L6--GND2
L7- VCC2
L8-SIG3
L9-VCC3
L10-SIG4
L11-GND3
L12--BOTTOM
 
Regards,
Girish Kumar
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  • Robert Finley
    Robert Finley over 15 years ago

    Current carrying capability is the least of your problems. 

    Right now, you need to find a way to hook this up with as few a number of laser via layers as possible.  

    Is this some kind of FPGA I haven't heard of yet?

    1249 pins, sqrt of that is about 36 x 36.  With half the pins being ground, that means 9 channels around the perimeter of the device.  

    How big is your board going to be?   Who do you believe will fabricate this?   Better yet, where are your VDD pins?

    Are all the signal/power pins used?  Which pins are unconnected inside the package?  

    If this device has any impedance-controlled traces because of high-speed signals, you have to design for a low-impedance grounds which means you will need buried ground vias very close to your signal balls or the board won't work.

    I would work on fanning out the device to see how many signal layers you have.  I have been forced to design a board where the first ground plane was on layer five.  Yes, that is four lamination steps for the fabricator.  Why?  Because they had to fit four boards on a standard panel size or the cost constraint couldn't be met.  (whatever...)   Yup.  I had adjacent layer crosstalk like crazy that had to be fixed.  But, it allowed the board to route 100%.

    Try to switch to a device with 0.8 to 1mm pitch as 0.4mm pitch puts you into white-knucked cellphone board hell.  There is only one company I trust for that kind of work.
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  • girish
    girish over 15 years ago

     

     This is a high speed impedance controlled board with very tightly packed components(board dimension:70x80mm),the BGA (22x22mm),all pins are used.

     

    Thanks for your reply & suggestion.

    Regards

    Girish Kumar 

     

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  • Robert Finley
    Robert Finley over 15 years ago

    Well, your board size ('bout 3" square) helps me feel better..

    I implore you to ask the device manufacturer for any information on verified methods for fanning this out (we called them route studies). 

    If you have to fan out every single one of those ground balls to a buried via, I will be happy I am not doing it.  But, if the chip design allows you to skip a GND ball when necessary, it will help. 

    For impedance-controlled traces going to internal layers through core vias, you need to minimize parasitic inductance (loop area) which means signal and ground core vias close to each other, tying ground planes together.  More ground core vias will improve performance up to the point where they chop your VDD planes.  Mitigate that by seeing if you need all the ground balls connected..

    I understand why signal 2 is attractive for a ground plane.  But, you may have an easier time breaking the first two rings of signal pins out if you push the first ground plane to layer 3 or 4, as long as you leave room to keep adjacent layer signal shadowing to a minimum. 

    Keep in mind the handset industry relies heavily on Panasonic's ALIVH and DDi's Stacked Microvia Technology for 0.4mm pitch devices.   Check with them on turnaround times as DDI is *very* popular for this technology.

    While 0.4mm devices are what my former employer developed for the wireless handset industry, we never have a solid array of balls like you have.  

     

    Fortunately, I think you are using Allegro, which has excellent DRCs for adjacent layer parallelism.   I worked for a Mentor shop.  We didn't have any adjacent-layer DRCs for crosstalk unless we translated the Boardstation database to Allegro XL and ran DRCs there. 

     

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