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Cross section tool and impedance calculations

TH Designs
TH Designs over 12 years ago

I ran into something the other day and have been working with tech support on, but thought I might get some answers here.

Four layer board, two inner layers set to planes (and shield) FR4 material.

In the Setup - cross section tool, when I try to calculate the trace width based on a given impedance and stack up, the impedance is always 60 ohms. For example, I open the cross section tool and select Show Single Impedance.  The default impedance shows as 60 ohms. If I try to change it to 50 ohms by manually editing the cell, it resets to 60 as soon as I click out of the cell.

If I try to change it by using the drop down boxes at the bottom of the window; Layer Type - Conductor; Material 1oz cu; Field set to - Impedance; Value Set to - 50; then select "Update Fields", nothing happens.

We tried multiple things yesterday. I even sent the board file to tech support and it works just fine for them (figures.....)

I tried it on a different computer at my home office and the impedance is displayed in exponential format, not in ohms.

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    TH Designs over 12 years ago

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    oldmouldy over 12 years ago
    Which exact version are you running Help>About in PCB Editor? I don't think that you are going to see the values update if you don't have any conductor layers that match, also the default materials.dat has 0 for some of the conductor thicknesses. When the "Update Fields" runs, you should see the "Field Solver bem2d" messages in the Command Window. It seems OK when I try this....
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  • budnoel
    budnoel over 12 years ago

    Hi TH - For whatever it's worth, I'm running 16.5 and here's a screen shot of my results.

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  • TH Designs
    TH Designs over 12 years ago

    I'm at the latest ISR. Just spent some time on the phone with tech support. We tried many things, he is going to forward it to Cadence. Stumped..........

    I do not see anything run in the command window when I hit update fields.

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  • TH Designs
    TH Designs over 12 years ago

    Bud,  

    Your results are exactly what I would expect to see and what they see at tech support. I wonder if something went amiss with my install..........

    Tom

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