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Orcad pin ignore missing in latest version.

Lennie
Lennie over 7 years ago

In previous versions you could generate ,for example , an op amp with 4 sections. Each section had the same power and ground pins. They you could go into the pins spreadsheet and select pins you wanted ignored(not displayed in the schematic), That way you only had power and ground showing on one section. With this never version of the symbol editor I cannot figure out how to do that ? Any ideas.

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  • Lennie
    Lennie over 7 years ago

    I found it but it does not allow setting of 1 pin to ignore. You have to set the pin on each section to ignore in order for it to work. The new version seems like its a step back and not forward.

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  • Lennie
    Lennie over 7 years ago in reply to Lennie

    Ok. it looks like the new symbol editor has some functions that do not work correctly. Below is how I was able to get this to work correctly

    1. If you set a power pin - pin ignore to yes on one section and press apply it changes all sections. Should one change that section.

    2. Once a power pin - pin ignore is set to yes (all sections are yes) and then set one of those to no , selecting apply  all stay at  yes. Have to set all to no to get no to work.

    3.  although the pins correctly reflect the the state of pin ignore when exit the symbol editor they are not displayed correctly in the symbol editor.

    3. If you select an individual power pin and then edit just that pin the pin ignore works correctly, And is displayed correct when you exit the symbol editor. IF you select Edit pins (for all sections)   the edit pin does not display the correct state of the sections ignore pin we just changed.

    4. The manual for this section is very vague.

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  • excellon1
    excellon1 over 7 years ago in reply to Lennie

    Lennie, on those multi section symbols I think it is far easier to just open the symbol in the editor and remove the extra ground and power pins on the sections that don't need them, clean up the graphics and then just save the symbol. Doing this will mean your symbol is right out of the gate so to speak and the sections A,B,C,D etc will look good on the page.

    It seems like having to manipulate the pin sections is just an extra step that's not needed ?.

    Here is a two section symbol on the schematic page. Section B used to look like Section A. I removed the extra power pins and cleaned up the graphic stub for those pins. Works good and can be done in a few seconds. If I need to use that symbol on another project then it is ready to go straight from the library. Only proviso is to remember to name each section value the same otherwise you will run into netlisting issues. For example if the value of section a is NE5532 then section B should be the same.

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  • Lennie
    Lennie over 7 years ago in reply to excellon1

    Hi Excellon1,

    I agree but if you load a LM139 for example from the Orcad library you cannot just delete the power pins . If you delete them on one section they are deleted on the other sections.

    I believe you have created your example as Heterogeneous part ? There are created as homogenous parts in the library/

    In the older versions of Orcad you were able to go to a spreadsheet showing all the pins of the part  and just click ignore on the power/ground pins you want and were removed. Quick and easy. This new edit pins is much harder to work with and has the bugs I described above.

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  • excellon1
    excellon1 over 7 years ago in reply to Lennie

    Hi lennie you are right on the Orcad Library parts been homogeneous so my idea wont work for you. The parts I have here were Heterogeneous so in that regard it will work..

    I see what you are saying with the current version of capture. Since they changed to that there have been alot of bugs. It was released too early IMHO.

    On the Op Amps it may not be too difficult to create a couple of dummy heterogeneous symbols for say the dual and quad packages. That would cover alot of parts because the pinning is typically the same. Going forward you would just be dealing with a rename - save to library operation, may save you some time for future designs.

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