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Assura QRC exclude nets

stuso
stuso over 15 years ago

Hi there,

this is probaly an easy Q for you guys but is it straight forward to exclude specific nets from assura QRc extraction? I guess it's possible to to this with R or C or RC extract as well.

Looking at the QRC Run Form and "extraction" tab i see an option for Net Selection Type with a few options:

Full Chip All Nets

Full Chip Selected Nets

 ...etc

so it seems logical thet "Eluded Nets" might be the option i require. But next to this there is  another field for "QRCFS Extraction Mode" Shoud i alter this?

Then i assume i should then select from schematic all the nets i want to exclude.

We are playing about with this & reading the manual but its not working as we expect, any suggestions are welcome.

Thanks

Stu

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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  • stuso
    stuso over 15 years ago

    I should add our current version of Assura is ASSURA41USR1HF4_CDB

    We also now suspect that the Rpar IS being excluded but the Cpar is not.

    Thanks

     

     

     

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  • Quek
    Quek over 15 years ago

    Hi Stu

    Your observation is correct. For "Excluded nets" mode, R, L and K will not be extracted for the listed nets but C will still be extracted. This is also explained in QRC user guide.

    There is no need to modify the settings of QRCFS. QRC FS (field solver) can give highly accurate capacitance extraction for critical nets at the expense of much longer runtimes. To use QRCFS, there should be a file named "rcxfs.dat" in your QRC tech directory.

    Best regards
    Quek

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  • stuso
    stuso over 15 years ago

     Hi Quek, thanks for your feedback. Yes i have now read the manual (the first thing i always suggest to others is read the manual), so sorry for the silly q's.

    The option that might help us is selected nets proper. Given the schematic in question is not huge its easy to select say 2/3 of the nets that we want to extract....i tried this and the netlist looks correct with only the R&C for the chosen nets present.

    I've not yet tried excluded nets proper but that might be the option we go for in bigger cells where its more practical to deselect 4-5 nets such that they are not extracted.

    Many thanks

    Stu

     

     

     

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  • ogiard
    ogiard over 14 years ago

     Hello,

     I don't know if this forum still be active, but I want explain a problem I have with the option Excluded Nets.

    I make a lot of big extract with option Selected Net. the selection of net is build from various skill I made to catch the list of all schematics nets (including hierarchical notation), then I reduce the list of net with some regular expressions in order to produce the exact list of net I want to extract. This flow works fine, and I can handle big simulation with/without power supplies, static commands, etc...

    I want to extend this flow with the option Excluded Net, but I'm in face to a big problem since the long time. the extract view created with list of net to exclude is correct EXCEPT for the substrate node. In my design the substrate node (general PTAP connection) is named "gnds" and I always get the extracted view. The only way to not have it in the extraction with Excluded Net option is to use the switch in tab "Extraction" Name Space -> Layout Name. But in that case all the other net that I want to exclude seem to be unrecognized by QRC because I get it in the extracted view.

     

    Does anyone know this problem?

    Thanks

     

    Olivier

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  • Quek
    Quek over 14 years ago

    Hi Olivier

    Would you please start a new thread for your question? : ) 

    Thanks
    Quek

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  • ogiard
    ogiard over 14 years ago

     

     Hi Quek,

     I'm new in this community...and really not aware about its functionnalities

    What do you mean by a new thread; Write a new post?

     Thanks

     

    Olivier

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  • Quek
    Quek over 14 years ago

    Hi Olivier

    That's right. : )  It is not very advisable to continue an old post because the original issue might be different from yours.

    Best regards
    Quek

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