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how to annotate the current in to a pin ?

DanySF
DanySF over 14 years ago

 I have IC5 and I want to know if it is possible to annotate DC (op) current that flow in to a pin.

For example I have a BGP cell with a symbol that have VDD pin.

I want to see in the schematic the DC voltage on that net (ex: 1.8V) and also the DC current that flow in there (ex: 105uA).

It is possible ?

 

Thanks.

 

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  • SharksFan
    SharksFan over 14 years ago

    You don't give any details about your simulation setup, so I will just assume you are using ADE.  The symbol view of BGP needs to be edited such that the VDD pin on which you wish to see the annotation has an ILLabel added with the Label field filled in as cdsTerm("VDD").  Once the symbol is edited, within ADE you then use Results>Annotate>DC Node Voltages after a simulation to see the volatge at the pin.

    Getting the current can be done several ways.  If you want to see the current simultaneously with the voltage, then I suggest adding the iprobe component from analogLib to your testbench schematic. It acts as a 0 V dc supply which allows you to see the current through it when you do a Results>Annotate>DC Operating Points.  Alternately, if you can't add iprobes, you can also get the terminal current to annotate on the cdsTerm labels.  After a simulation is complete, do an Edit>Component Display from the schematic.  Then select your BGP cell in the schematic.  Next, in the pop-up dialog box, select label as Terminal at the top, then Apply To field as either cell or instance, and finally select Current and DC.  Keep in mind, that this is a one-time setting and if you change the annotation using Results>Annotate in ADE, you will have to re-edit the component display again to see the current.

    Hope this helps.

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  • DanySF
    DanySF over 14 years ago

    Thanks SharksFan.

    Indeed I am using ADE.

    The solution with a DC voltage source in series with VDD pin I used before but I was not happy because sometime I forget to remove it and the layout guy complain that the schematic is not correct.

    In fact I am searching for a solution that do not require any additional component to be inserted.

    I tried your suggestion (Component Display) but nothing is annotate in schematic for currents.

    For voltages it is working and I see the correct values.

    But for currents nothing ! I have to add something special to the symbol ?? like a cdsTerm label ??

    For example the MOS symbol show the "Id" current and other stuff but there is a different  label : cdsParam(1).

    I tried even with all currents saved (ADE->Outputs->Save all..).  No success.

    other ideas ?

     

     

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  • SharksFan
    SharksFan over 14 years ago

    As I said before, the symbol view of BGP needs to be edited such that the VDD pin on which you wish to see the annotation has an ILLabel added with the Label field filled in as cdsTerm("VDD").  Once the symbol is edited, within ADE you then use Results>Annotate>DC Node Voltages after a simulation to see the voltage at the pin.  Without the cdsTerm added, you will not get the terminal information, just as you experienced.  The current will be available too, just as I outlined, once you edit the symbol as I have indicated.

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  • Sunnyvale
    Sunnyvale over 13 years ago

     Hi, Edit>Component Display is greyout when the schematic is in read mode. Is there a way to toggle between voltage and current display on a terminal without having to edit the schematic?

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  • Andrew Beckett
    Andrew Beckett over 13 years ago

    As outlined in the Forum Guidelines, please don't add to old posts - especially as this is only loosely related to the original question.

    In newer versions, you can access the menu even when readonly, but in older versions you can type asaEditCompDisplay() in the CIW to bring up the form. Note that using "Apply to" set to instance will not be possible in such cases.

    Regards,

    Andrew.

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