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Virtuoso XL 6.1.5.500.9 opens physConfig along with schematic

LongTimeNovice
LongTimeNovice over 13 years ago

Hi.  When I open a layout in XL and tell it that my connectivity reference is a particular schematic, it opens up that cell's schematic along with its physConfig view.  This view doesn't always match the non-XL schematic when no physConfig is loaded with it.  When we make changes to the schematic view, they don't always (maybe never) carry over into the physConfig.

 Why does  it do this?  Is there a way to force XL to open the schematic with no physConfig view, or is it possible to always have the physConfig view match the schematic?

 Thank you!

Steve.

 

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  • Andrew Beckett
    Andrew Beckett over 13 years ago

    Steve,

    I don't really understand what you mean (what's the "non-XL schematic" for a start?). The physConfig is needed because the schematic has to know what configuration is controlling it - this contains all the rules for hierarchy expansion and view switching and so on (much as a normal config is used for simulation purposes) - even if the physConfig gets discarded when you close everything (i.e. if you never ran Configure Physical Hierarchy and saved the results).

    So you always have to have a physConfig.

    Andrew.

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  • LongTimeNovice
    LongTimeNovice over 13 years ago

     

    Hi, Andrew.  Thanks for the response.

     When I say non-XL schematic, I mean a schematic that is opened up Virtuso Schematic Editor L without being linked to Virtuoso Layout Suite XL.  No connectivity, just a schematic opened for viewing.  When I do that, the title bar says

    "Virtuoso Schematic Editor L Reading: [library name] [cell name] schematic Version:[#]-Checkedin".

      When I open Virtuoso XL and attach a schematic to it, the title bar says

    "Virtuoso Schematic Editor L Reading: [library name] [cell_name] schematic  Config:[library name] [cell name] physConfig Version:[#]-Checkedin".

     

    So XL opens up a schematic with physConfig while a plain schematic without XL connectivity just opens up a schematic.  My problem is that sometimes, particularly after a circuit designer (I'm layout) makes an edit in a schematic, and after I do a library update, I can see the edit if I open the schematic by itself without XL, but when I use XL, the schematic/physConfig view does not show the edit.  Shouldn't the two match?  Since the XL layout is linked to the physConfig,  it's a problem when I'm not seeing the most recent changes in that view.  How can we do things differently such that I can see schematic edits whether or not I have VIrtuoso XL connectivity?

    Thanks.
    Steve.

     

     

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  • Andrew Beckett
    Andrew Beckett over 13 years ago

    Steve,

    The schematic is the same schematic, regardless of whether it is opened with a physConfig or not - all that affects is how the hierarchy will be traversed - and how VLS XL understands which physical view will be used for each instance, and so on. The actual schematic should not be affected - as I said, it's exactly the same schematic.

    I think you should contact customer support over this - it might be something odd to do with the design management you're using (the Version: [#] Checkedin bit is nothing to do with Cadence).

    Regards,

    Andrew.

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  • LongTimeNovice
    LongTimeNovice over 13 years ago

    Thank you, Andrew!

     That's great to know.  Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.  I should probably contact our local experts here and let them take a crack at it first.

     Have a great day.

     Steve.

     

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