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Problem in Cadence Virtuoso AC analysis

OneNewBoy
OneNewBoy over 12 years ago

Hi all,

I am facing an often discussed problem  while simulating a differential pair in cadence virtuoso.

Though I have biased the transistors through DC  (though they are in subthreshold mode), yet when I try do do ac analysis (I follow all regular steps) I get a zero magnitude at output. Ths schematic is attached.

Can someone help me in debugging this ?

 

 

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    OneNewBoy over 12 years ago

    Hi Andrew, Thanks a lot for help. Please find below the contents of the netlist:  

    // Generated for: spectre

    // Generated on: Mar 22 14:37:53 2013

    // Design library name: Basic_Blocks

    // Design cell name: DiffAmp_MOS

    // Design view name: schematic

    simulator lang=spectre

    global 0 vdd!

    parameters C=2p Ibias=1u Vac=0.1 VDD=0.4 VinNDC=0.2 VinPDC=0.2 Wnl=7 Wpl=7

     

    // Library name: Basic_Blocks

    // Cell name: DiffAmp_MOS

    // View name: schematic

    I2 (net2 0) isource dc=Ibias type=dc

    V2 (VinN 0) vsource dc=VinNDC type=dc

    V3 (net012 0) vsource dc=VinPDC type=dc

    V0 (vdd! 0) vsource dc=VDD type=dc

    C0 (Vout 0) capacitor c=C

    Vac (VinP net012) vsource dc=0 mag=Vac phase=0 type=sine sinedc=0 ampl=Vac \

            sinephase=0 freq=1K

    I21 (net3 net3 vdd!) SubPMOS_noisy W=Wpl Temp=300 Gamma=1.2 Kox=12 L=2e-08 \

            Nit=1e+16 Tox_P=2.5e-09 Trap_depth=2e-09 attn=1.25e+10

    I20 (Vout net3 vdd!) SubPMOS_noisy W=Wpl Temp=300 Gamma=1.2 Kox=12 L=2e-08 \

            Nit=1e+16 Tox_P=2.5e-09 Trap_depth=2e-09 attn=1.25e+10

    I23 (Vout VinN net2) SubNMOS_noisy W=Wnl Temp=300 Gamma=1.2 Kox=12 L=2e-08 \

            Nit=1e+16 Tox_P=2.5e-09 Trap_depth=2e-09 attn=5e+09

    I22 (net3 VinP net2) SubNMOS_noisy W=Wnl Temp=300 Gamma=1.2 Kox=12 L=2e-08 \

            Nit=1e+16 Tox_P=2.5e-09 Trap_depth=2e-09 attn=5e+09

    simulatorOptions options reltol=1e-3 vabstol=1e-6 iabstol=1e-12 temp=27 \

        tnom=27 scalem=1.0 scale=1.0 gmin=1e-12 rforce=1 maxnotes=5 maxwarns=5 \

        digits=5 cols=80 pivrel=1e-3 sensfile="../psf/sens.output" \

        checklimitdest=psf

    ac ac start=1 stop=1G dec=20 save=all annotate=status

    modelParameter info what=models where=rawfile

    element info what=inst where=rawfile

    outputParameter info what=output where=rawfile

    designParamVals info what=parameters where=rawfile

    primitives info what=primitives where=rawfile

    subckts info what=subckts  where=rawfile

    saveOptions options save=allpub currents=all

    ahdl_include "~/Library_userDefined/Basic_Blocks/SubPMOS_noisy/veriloga/veriloga.va"

    ahdl_include "~/Library_userDefined/Basic_Blocks/SubNMOS_noisy/veriloga/veriloga.va" 

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    OneNewBoy over 12 years ago

    Hi Andrew, Thanks a lot for help. Please find below the contents of the netlist:  

    // Generated for: spectre

    // Generated on: Mar 22 14:37:53 2013

    // Design library name: Basic_Blocks

    // Design cell name: DiffAmp_MOS

    // Design view name: schematic

    simulator lang=spectre

    global 0 vdd!

    parameters C=2p Ibias=1u Vac=0.1 VDD=0.4 VinNDC=0.2 VinPDC=0.2 Wnl=7 Wpl=7

     

    // Library name: Basic_Blocks

    // Cell name: DiffAmp_MOS

    // View name: schematic

    I2 (net2 0) isource dc=Ibias type=dc

    V2 (VinN 0) vsource dc=VinNDC type=dc

    V3 (net012 0) vsource dc=VinPDC type=dc

    V0 (vdd! 0) vsource dc=VDD type=dc

    C0 (Vout 0) capacitor c=C

    Vac (VinP net012) vsource dc=0 mag=Vac phase=0 type=sine sinedc=0 ampl=Vac \

            sinephase=0 freq=1K

    I21 (net3 net3 vdd!) SubPMOS_noisy W=Wpl Temp=300 Gamma=1.2 Kox=12 L=2e-08 \

            Nit=1e+16 Tox_P=2.5e-09 Trap_depth=2e-09 attn=1.25e+10

    I20 (Vout net3 vdd!) SubPMOS_noisy W=Wpl Temp=300 Gamma=1.2 Kox=12 L=2e-08 \

            Nit=1e+16 Tox_P=2.5e-09 Trap_depth=2e-09 attn=1.25e+10

    I23 (Vout VinN net2) SubNMOS_noisy W=Wnl Temp=300 Gamma=1.2 Kox=12 L=2e-08 \

            Nit=1e+16 Tox_P=2.5e-09 Trap_depth=2e-09 attn=5e+09

    I22 (net3 VinP net2) SubNMOS_noisy W=Wnl Temp=300 Gamma=1.2 Kox=12 L=2e-08 \

            Nit=1e+16 Tox_P=2.5e-09 Trap_depth=2e-09 attn=5e+09

    simulatorOptions options reltol=1e-3 vabstol=1e-6 iabstol=1e-12 temp=27 \

        tnom=27 scalem=1.0 scale=1.0 gmin=1e-12 rforce=1 maxnotes=5 maxwarns=5 \

        digits=5 cols=80 pivrel=1e-3 sensfile="../psf/sens.output" \

        checklimitdest=psf

    ac ac start=1 stop=1G dec=20 save=all annotate=status

    modelParameter info what=models where=rawfile

    element info what=inst where=rawfile

    outputParameter info what=output where=rawfile

    designParamVals info what=parameters where=rawfile

    primitives info what=primitives where=rawfile

    subckts info what=subckts  where=rawfile

    saveOptions options save=allpub currents=all

    ahdl_include "~/Library_userDefined/Basic_Blocks/SubPMOS_noisy/veriloga/veriloga.va"

    ahdl_include "~/Library_userDefined/Basic_Blocks/SubNMOS_noisy/veriloga/veriloga.va" 

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