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Large signal SNR with transient noise analysis

JoHi
JoHi over 9 years ago

Hello everyone,

i'm trying to calculate SNR for an amplification circuit with photodiode input. I can't simulate small signal noise, because the photodiode's modell isn't even capable of AC simulation. So i thought of at least calculating the large signal SNR by simulating transient response to a sinus input with activated transient noise.


Up to the simulation everything works fine and i obtain the noisy output curves i wanted. But what output expression has to be set, to calculate the SNR? I tried a few things:

- Fourier Transformation on the output voltage and "spectrumMeas" applied on this. But it only seems to work for data converters (states the "help" description), not amplifiers.

- Doing two transient simulations - one noisy and the other not - with the intention to subtract the resulting waveforms (result is the "noise function") and divide the noisy output curve by the "noise function". But i didn't found a way to subtract the two plots, because they have one different parameter - i have them both in one test environment by applying a variable to "Fmax" in transient noise. I also tried to create a combinatorial expression by putting the simulation without noise in a second test environment and do something like (VT("/VoltageWithNoise") - calcVal("VoltageWithoutNoise" "TestWithoutNoise")), resulting in an evaluation error.


Does anybody know how to get the large signal SNR of an amplification circuit with transient noise analysis or can help me with my attempts? I use IC6.1.6.500.07 and ADEXL.

Regards,

Johannes.

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    Andrew Beckett over 9 years ago

    Hi Johannes,

    I don't think the spectrum toolbox is limited to data converters, and I'm not sure why you shouldn't be able to subtract the noiseless results from the noisy result without seeing your setup).

    I think it would be best to talk to customer support so that we can better see what you're doing and understand why it doesn't work.

    Kind Regards,

    Andrew.

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  • Andrew Beckett
    Andrew Beckett over 9 years ago

    Hi Johannes,

    I don't think the spectrum toolbox is limited to data converters, and I'm not sure why you shouldn't be able to subtract the noiseless results from the noisy result without seeing your setup).

    I think it would be best to talk to customer support so that we can better see what you're doing and understand why it doesn't work.

    Kind Regards,

    Andrew.

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