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charge pump output current noise (A^2/Hz) is SSB or DSB?

potsticker
potsticker over 9 years ago

hi, i ran a pss/pnoise simulation of my charge pump in steady state,


the mmsim version is  14.10.708_lnx86
    /home/eda/tools/vendors/mmsim/14.10.708_lnx86/tools/bin/spectre -64  \
        input.scs +escchars +log ../psf/spectre.out -format psfxl -raw  \
        ../psf ++aps +mt=8 -proc 6 +lqtimeout 900 -maxw 5 -maxn 5  \
        -ahdllibdir  \

the cadence version is 6.1.6-64b
\o Program:             @(#)$CDS: virtuoso version 6.1.6-64b 09/01/2015 22:56 (sjfnl132) $
\o Hierarchy:           /home/eda/tools/vendors/opus/6.1.6.500.132_lnx86/tools.lnx86/dfII/
\o Sub version:         sub-version  IC6.1.6-64b.500.13.2  (64-bit addresses)


the simulation command is
noise type = source.

simulatorOptions options reltol=1e-3 vabstol=1e-6 iabstol=1e-12 temp=55.0 \
    tnom=27 scalem=1.0 scale=1.0 gmin=1e-12 rforce=1 maxnotes=5 maxwarns=5 \
    digits=5 cols=80 pivrel=1e-3 sensfile="../psf/sens.output" \
    checklimitdest=psf
pss  pss  fund=100M  harms=20  errpreset=conservative  tstab=2u
+    saveinit=no  checkpss=yes  maxperiods=200  annotate=status
pnoise  pnoise  sweeptype=relative  relharmnum=1  start=1
+       stop=66.65M  dec=10  maxsideband=20  oprobe=V32  separatenoise=yes
+       annotate=status


my question is, on the output current noise power. (A^2/Hz), is this reported

noise SSB or DSB?

i am seeing the chip noise being 6dB lower from my simulation. which would make sense if the reported number was DSB.

thanks alot.

Frank

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    Andrew Beckett over 9 years ago

    It will be SSB.

    Without seeing the rest of your setup, it's hard to tell if there might be an other explanation for the 6dB difference.

    I suggest you contact customer support so that we can look at your setup and data in more detail (i.e seeing the actual circuit and other components in your test bench).

    Regards,

    Andrew

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  • Andrew Beckett
    Andrew Beckett over 9 years ago

    It will be SSB.

    Without seeing the rest of your setup, it's hard to tell if there might be an other explanation for the 6dB difference.

    I suggest you contact customer support so that we can look at your setup and data in more detail (i.e seeing the actual circuit and other components in your test bench).

    Regards,

    Andrew

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