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Is there a way to measure the equivalent capacitance from a node to ground in a circuit?

BaaB
BaaB over 9 years ago

Is there a way to measure the equivalent capacitance from a node to ground in a circuit?

I see that the node to ground in captab only reports the capacitance value of an actual capacitor (if exists) from that node to ground not the equivalent capacitance.

Thank you.

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    Andrew Beckett over 9 years ago

    I suspect you must have picked the detail=nodetoground option rather than the default "node" or the other alternative "nodetonode" option. If you pick "nodetoground" it only includes the capacitance to ground, not the effective capacitance to ground. 

    With this netlist:

    // Example of various captab detail options

    VDD (vdd 0) vsource dc=1.8
    C1 (a vdd) capacitor c=1p
    C2 (a 0) capacitor c=1p

    dc dc
    captabDefault info what=captab where=screen
    captabNodeToNode info what=captab where=screen detail=nodetonode
    captabNodeToGnd info what=captab where=screen detail=nodetoground

    Then I get this in the output (note I only posted the relevant part):

    **********************************
    Capacitance Table `captabDefault':
    **********************************
    Capacitance values computed in DC analysis `dc' at T = 27 C.

    a : a fixed=2 p , variable=0 , sum=2 p .

    vdd : vdd fixed=1 p , variable=0 , sum=1 p .

    *************************************
    Capacitance Table `captabNodeToNode':
    *************************************
    Capacitance values computed in DC analysis `dc' at T = 27 C.

    a : a fixed=2 p , variable=0 , sum=2 p .
    a : 0 fixed=1 p , variable=0 , sum=1 p .
    a : vdd fixed=1 p , variable=0 , sum=1 p .

    vdd : vdd fixed=1 p , variable=0 , sum=1 p .
    vdd : 0 fixed=0 , variable=0 , sum=0 .
    vdd : a fixed=1 p , variable=0 , sum=1 p .

    ************************************
    Capacitance Table `captabNodeToGnd':
    ************************************
    Capacitance values computed in DC analysis `dc' at T = 27 C.

    a : 0 fixed=1 p , variable=0 , sum=1 p .

    vdd : 0 fixed=0 , variable=0 , sum=0 .

    As you can see from the lines I highlighted in red, you are getting with the a:a lines the total capacitance on a node.

    BTW, the attach image problem for me seems to be broken in Safari currently but OK in Firefox. I'll speak with our IT folks who manage the forums to see if it can be addressed (it's happened before and normally needs something resetting I think).

    Regards,

    Andrew.

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  • Andrew Beckett
    Andrew Beckett over 9 years ago

    I suspect you must have picked the detail=nodetoground option rather than the default "node" or the other alternative "nodetonode" option. If you pick "nodetoground" it only includes the capacitance to ground, not the effective capacitance to ground. 

    With this netlist:

    // Example of various captab detail options

    VDD (vdd 0) vsource dc=1.8
    C1 (a vdd) capacitor c=1p
    C2 (a 0) capacitor c=1p

    dc dc
    captabDefault info what=captab where=screen
    captabNodeToNode info what=captab where=screen detail=nodetonode
    captabNodeToGnd info what=captab where=screen detail=nodetoground

    Then I get this in the output (note I only posted the relevant part):

    **********************************
    Capacitance Table `captabDefault':
    **********************************
    Capacitance values computed in DC analysis `dc' at T = 27 C.

    a : a fixed=2 p , variable=0 , sum=2 p .

    vdd : vdd fixed=1 p , variable=0 , sum=1 p .

    *************************************
    Capacitance Table `captabNodeToNode':
    *************************************
    Capacitance values computed in DC analysis `dc' at T = 27 C.

    a : a fixed=2 p , variable=0 , sum=2 p .
    a : 0 fixed=1 p , variable=0 , sum=1 p .
    a : vdd fixed=1 p , variable=0 , sum=1 p .

    vdd : vdd fixed=1 p , variable=0 , sum=1 p .
    vdd : 0 fixed=0 , variable=0 , sum=0 .
    vdd : a fixed=1 p , variable=0 , sum=1 p .

    ************************************
    Capacitance Table `captabNodeToGnd':
    ************************************
    Capacitance values computed in DC analysis `dc' at T = 27 C.

    a : 0 fixed=1 p , variable=0 , sum=1 p .

    vdd : 0 fixed=0 , variable=0 , sum=0 .

    As you can see from the lines I highlighted in red, you are getting with the a:a lines the total capacitance on a node.

    BTW, the attach image problem for me seems to be broken in Safari currently but OK in Firefox. I'll speak with our IT folks who manage the forums to see if it can be addressed (it's happened before and normally needs something resetting I think).

    Regards,

    Andrew.

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