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What is the difference between id and ids of a MOS operating parameter

RFStuff
RFStuff over 5 years ago

Dear All,

Can anybody please tell me what is the difference between id and Ids of a MOS operating parameter shown in operating point list of ADE.

Kind Regards.

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  • Andrew Beckett
    Andrew Beckett over 5 years ago

    This will depend on which device model is being used, but if you look in the Spectre Circuit Simulator Components and Device Models Reference manual you should find some information. For bsim4 (if that's what you have here), then in the Component Parameters section at the end of the chapter, it has a description and links to relevant equations:

    5 ids (A) Resistive drain-to-source current. Refer to equations 21-16 and 21-43.

    49 id (A) Resistive drain current. The sum of the currents though D and DI node.

    The second is a bit misleading, but if you look at the equivalent circuit early in the chapter, I'm sure id is the total resistive drain current (including that which flows to the bulk) and ids is just that between drain and source. That would seem logical given the names too.

    Regards,

    Andrew.

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  • ShawnLogan
    ShawnLogan over 5 years ago in reply to Andrew Beckett

    Dear RFStuff,

    Andrew’s explanation is exactly correct. ID is the total drain current, including that to the bulk, and IDS is only the portion that flows from drain to source.

    Shawn

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  • ShawnLogan
    ShawnLogan over 5 years ago in reply to Andrew Beckett

    Dear RFStuff,

    Andrew’s explanation is exactly correct. ID is the total drain current, including that to the bulk, and IDS is only the portion that flows from drain to source.

    Shawn

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