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Difference in gm and Id values obtained in hand calculation and simulation results ?

Aalelai
Aalelai over 5 years ago

Hi,

I simulated a nmos in 180nm technology and found its parameters. The hand calculated values for gm and Id were not same as simulated values (different Vgs values were used).

Specs: Vdd = 1.8V; W=420nm; L=180nm; Vds=0.9V. 

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  • Andrew Beckett
    Andrew Beckett over 5 years ago

    Presumably your hand calculations were incorrect then.

    Most likely you've used far too simplistic equations in your hand calculations. Most text book MOS equations are not correct for any current technology (they weren't accurate even 25 years ago, so with 180nm they wouldn't be either).

    Andrew

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  • Andrew Beckett
    Andrew Beckett over 5 years ago

    Presumably your hand calculations were incorrect then.

    Most likely you've used far too simplistic equations in your hand calculations. Most text book MOS equations are not correct for any current technology (they weren't accurate even 25 years ago, so with 180nm they wouldn't be either).

    Andrew

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  • Aalelai
    Aalelai over 5 years ago in reply to Andrew Beckett

    Thank You sir,

    I used the following formulas for hand calculations,

    Id=0.5 * Un Cox * W/L (Vgs-Vt)^2

    gm=2Id/Vgs-Vt

    Un = 3.5 E^-2

    Epsilon r = 3.9

    Tox= 4*E^-9

    Are these equations and values correct or is there a change needed in them ???

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  • Aalelai
    Aalelai over 5 years ago in reply to Andrew Beckett

    Is there any way/formula to calculate these values by hand ?

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    Andrew Beckett over 5 years ago in reply to Aalelai

    The textbook equations are reasonable for a first stab and to get a good understanding of the first-order way that transistors work and trends (so the broad relationships between currents and voltages), but there's very little point in doing detailed hand calculations and comparing against simulation. This is what simulators are for and are good at.

    You could look through the model equations for the device models used - e.g. bsim3 and bsim4 (depends on the model files being used) which will give you the more detailed equations that are actually used. You can see these in the Spectre Circuit Simulator Components and Device Models Reference manual (in <SPECTREinstDir>/doc/spectremod/spectremod.pdf - also accessible via support.cadence.com and using cdnshelp. There are text books too which cover this - for example, I have a copy of MOSFET Modeling with SPICE by Daniel P Foty (there are definitely more recent texts - I found quite a few when doing google search). However, I rather doubt you want to go to the level of hand-calculating these more complex equations used in modern MOSFET models when you can have a computer do it for you.

    Regards,

    Andrew.

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  • Aalelai
    Aalelai over 5 years ago in reply to Andrew Beckett

    Thank you sir...!!!

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