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2021-Era Recommended Spectre "Measure" Syntax

danfritchman
danfritchman over 4 years ago

Greetings - 

What is Cadence's modern-day (circa 2021) recommendation for scalar measurements in Spectre netlists?
(Something akin to traditional-SPICE's `.meas` cards.) 

This would be something that produces: 
* A single number for "regular" / scalar analyses (dc, tran, all the usuals) 
* An array of numbers for `montecarlo` and `sweep`
* (Maybe something, maybe not, you tell me, for anything else - nested sweeps, RF analyses, noise contributions, whatever)

I hear SpectreMDL has been de-emphasized and/or deprecated. 
And I see the current help for `montecarlo` recommends this: 

```
mc1 montecarlo variations=process seed=1234 numruns=200 {
  tran1 tran start=0 stop=1u // another child analysis
  export slewrate=oceanEval("slewRate(v(\"vout\"),10n,t,30n,t,10,90 )")  // <= this here 
}
```

So that's a combination of the `export` keyword (which I don't see in the help docs) and `oceanEval` (same).
Is that the standing recommendation? 
Or is there something else Cadence would advocate instead? 

(And I am really, really uninterested in answers involving the ADE.) 
Thanks!
Dan

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  • Andrew Beckett
    Andrew Beckett over 4 years ago

    Dan,

    I don't believe SpectreMDL has been deprecated - not sure where you've seen that? (it's always possible I've missed something, but I'm not aware of it). The export statement certainly has been deprecated - first the help said that it was deprecated and then the help got removed.

    You can run Monte Carlo through MDL, and you can also run non-Monte Carlo simulations too.

    Spectre also supports .MEASURE statements too using the same syntax as traditional SPICE simulators. These are implemented using MDL under the hood, but the input syntax is allowed.

    Regards,

    Andrew

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