Condition of using Create Maestro Plotting Template

Dear SimbaG,

SimbaG said:

But on my system, the selection is grey. I tried the two situation, 

1) The Viva XL started by ADE Explorer, while the simulation complete, I have some plot output.

2) Manually plot from results tab.

From your description, it is not clear to me why you are unable to create a maestro plotting template. I do not know if it is something related to your installation or something specific to your Explorer session. I would suggest you verify that if you following the instructions and plotting template example in the "Virtuoso ADE Explorer and Virtuoso ADE Assembler Rapid Adoption Kit" (RAK). There is an example of using templates starting with Action 131 on page 53 of the January 2020 version (see Figure 1 for a view of its contents).

If you are able to create a plotting template from this example, then you will know it is not your installation. You can compare the setup of the example Assembler session with your current Explorer setup and determine if there are any differences that might explain the behavior you are observing. You can find the RAK by searching the Cadence On-line support site.

Shawn

Figure 1

Thank you Shawn,

Following the RAK, it works.

But it is not easy to troubleshoot why I cannot have it on my Library.

Any debug commands can I use?

The only situation that I think would cause this is if you launch ViVA separately from ADE as it's then not connected to the ADE session (e.g. if you launched from the CIW), or (since you are using IC23.1) you are taking advantage of the new distributed plotting capability with ViVA. Does your Explorer window look like this:

NOTE: click on the image to see the full image.

If you see those two back to back arrows in a green circle in the icon on the right side, that means that distributed plotting has been enabled. Currently distributed plotting doesn't support plotting templates - I believe that is coming in the next ISR (ISR2) due out at the end of September. The point of distributed plotting is to allow the waveform plotting and memory consumption to be in a separate process than Virtuoso, and if you close the waveform windows all memory will be freed - this was formally released in the Virtuoso Studio IC23.1 release.

If you click on that icon again it will switch back to local ViVA plotting, which should support plotting templates. Can you check?

If this isn't it, please contact customer support (submit a case after logging in).

Regards,

Andrew

Andrew Beckett said:

Currently distributed plotting doesn't support plotting templates - I believe that is coming in the next ISR (ISR2) due out at the end of September

A correction for this. It works in IC23.1 ISR1 (no need to wait for ISR2). However, you have to create the plotting template from the ADE window rather than the ViVA graph window. Here's the icon in Assembler (there's a similar icon in Explorer):

Being able to use the File menu (or icon) in the ViVA graph window is something that is being considered as to how to make that work. Of course that should work OK if you are not using distributed plotting - it's just distributed plotting that has the restriction.

Andrew

Yes, I can confirm that the distributed plotting has been enabled and I can see a log about distributed plotting from CIW.

And I think this is due to I launch Viva XL via CIW.

One more comment, the icon of the save plotting template will disappear if the File menu - Create plotting template is disabled.

Seems like they are connected to each other, while they disconnected.

By the way, is it possible to change the distributed plotting back to local plotting by default? Can I change it only for my user?

Here are some CIW logs.

> INFO (ASSEMBLER-12548): Starting Distributed Plot service in plotting thread, using policy 'distributedPlotDefault', from: '[The IC231 DIR]/share/cdssetup/distributedPlot/jobpolicy'.

There is a cdsenv setting for this, although the default is off (nil) so it's pretty unlikely that this has been set in the user's environment:

maestro.plotting distributedPlotEnabled boolean t

What this affects is new maestro views. After that, it is remembered in the maestro view from one session to the next - and you can turn it off by clicking on this icon (this is from Assembler; the same icon is on the bottom right in the Explorer window):

SimbaG said:

And I think this is due to I launch Viva XL via CIW.

Plotting from ViVA in the CIW doesn't use distributed plotting, nor can that be used to save plotting templates since it's not connected to the ADE session. So I doubt that's what's going on.

SimbaG said:

One more comment, the icon of the save plotting template will disappear if the File menu - Create plotting template is disabled.

Seems like they are connected to each other, while they disconnected.

I don't understand the second sentence, but yes, the icon in the ViVA window should be greyed out if the File->Create Plotting Template is disabled (maybe it was removed in the base release). You can save the plotting template from the ADE window though instead, but that requires IC23.1 ISR1 - you're using the base release, so that's not supported.

If you want to use plotting templates in the base release that you're using, you should turn off distributed plotting (which as I said, is not the default - it's intended to deal with large volumes of plotting data which takes a lot of memory, and so plotting within Virtuoso makes more sense if it's smaller amounts of data - plus that's the only option that was available in previous releases anyway).

Andrew