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DC sweep results do not match DC operating point results

Doronzzz
Doronzzz over 1 year ago

I'm simulating a negative impedance convertor as shown below (the vcvs's gain is set to 100k, and the output range is 0-1.5V, R0 = 10k, R1 = 1k, R2 = 20k):

I swept the voltage at Vin from 0-1.5V and got the result below (Vcm is set to 0.75V):

The result is as expected - it behaves like a -200k resistor in the range of 0.1-1.4V.

However, when I connect another resistor (from analogLib) in series with this block, it behaves weird. 

R0 here is 300k, and I was expecting to get a 100k equivalent resistance (300k-200k=100k) at node Vtest. I got the satisfying result indeed if I set Vtest to 1V and print the DC operating point after running a DC simulation (as shown in the picture above). 

However, if I sweep the voltage at node Vtest, I get a different result - the current flowing into the node is 3.125uA now. Unfortunately, this value matches with the transient simulation, in which I set up a ramp input.

I checked the DC voltage at each node based on the transient simulation, it also makes sense (the circuit is now working out of the expected range of 0.1-1.4V). Does this mean that the simulator might have found 2 solutions for this circuit? Does this mean that the circuit has some kind of 'unstable' behaviour in terms of operating points?

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  • Doronzzz
    Doronzzz over 1 year ago

    I plot the i-v curve of the external resistor onto the i-v curve of the negative impedance convertor to find the possible solutions.

    There are multiple solutions (intersections) indeed. Does spectre have warnings when finding multiple solutions in a DC simulation?

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  • Frank Wiedmann
    Frank Wiedmann over 1 year ago in reply to Doronzzz

    Not in a simple DC analysis because it does not check for multiple solutions there. You can use nodesets to guide it towards the desired solution. For a systematic check, you can do a Hysteresis Sweep, see support.cadence.com/.../techpubDocViewerPage

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