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Tolerance relaxation when calculating DC operating point - impact on accuracy of SP analysis

Macio
Macio 1 month ago

Hello,

I have a general question on SPECTRE-17191 warning:

Warning from spectre during DC analysis `dcOp'.
WARNING (SPECTRE-17191):
Tolerance relaxation is used to obtain final DC solution which may affect the accuracy of the result. This is mainly caused by the high impedance nodes in the circuit. Use the dyn_highz check to determine the high impedance nodes. Setting/assigning appropriate initial values to these nodes will usually help to improve both performance and accuracy of DC simulations.

I would like to obtain high accuracy results from SP analysis (~70dB level) for an RC extracted block. I am using SpectreX CX accuracy with advanced options enabled: Preset Override = reltol(1e-4), Parasitic Optimization = OFF.

My concern is that when relaxation is used to obtain the DC operating point for the S-parameter analysis, the accuracy of the final results is impacted. 

Is there a quantitive way to approximate how much influence relaxation has on the results?

Spectre version: 24.10

Thank you,

Macio

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  • Andrew Beckett
    Andrew Beckett 1 month ago

    Macio,

    The chances are that it doesn't influence the sp results significantly - it might mean a small difference in the DC operating point, but that usually wouldn't impact the s-parameter simulation too significantly. 

    However, we don't have good guidance on the impact of this specific message - I've seen a request for greater clarity on this specific warning from a colleague, but R&D haven't given feedback yet. I would suggest you contact customer support (submit a support case using the Case menu after logging in).

    Regards,

    Andrew

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  • Macio
    Macio 1 month ago in reply to Andrew Beckett

    Thank you Andrew!

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