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RC synthesis flows

sureshm
sureshm over 13 years ago

 Dear all,

The question may be quite trivial for many out in this forum .. .i would like to discuss more of a methodology related  question with respect to RC tool usage ...for synthesis .!!! 

What are the several Synthesis flows recommended by RTL compiler? 

 Not all designs are computational intensive datapaths,  Few are intensive datapaths, Few are Clock intensive paths( more of clock path generation) and few designs  are  Memory intensive..  

 What is the best way to deal with each type of the Designs interms of methodologies .. ? how do we ensure that we have optimized the best possible way? How to verify for any improvements in the design QoR, timing, area & power...?

Apart from CG gating, what other techniques do we employee to target the low power synthesis?  

I also found that Multi-Vt optimization in synthesis is not a  good idea  from the tool perspective as this is not giving a good results?

Usually, DC provides a lot of template scripts targetting for timing, area & power separately? Any such tricks available in RTL compiler as well?? 

 Please share your views !! 

 

thanks

suresh 

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    grasshopper over 13 years ago
    Hi Suresh, nothing trivial about this question :) As you know, there are multiple ways to skin the cat. The RC write_template command provides a nice mechanism to generate various template for running RC but most of these are feature driven and not goal driven. It shows you for example, how to do retiming, and not necessarily the different things you can do when doing retiming. The goal of RC is to provide best QoR or close to best with the template flows provided. That being said, sometimes user has a need to make changes to squeeze the very last drop on a particular metric. I hate to give you a non-answer but I will. The issue is that there is no one-size fits-all answer when pursuing every last drop of QoR. There is certainly a trade-off user makes between time-to-good results vs. best results. As you know, time is the worst enemy of engineers. I will try to provide some quick suggestions that may be helpful and encourage you to enlist your local support to help you tailor things further: (1) Targets, targets, targets Targets are a key element of RC optimization, make sure you understand them and adjust flow accordingly (2) Constraints Previous generations of MIS/SIS based synthesis tools relied on over-constraining. This is definitely not the right approach to RC. Only over-constraint if you have a valid reason or evidence that it yields better results in your design using RC. Otherwise you are just giving up area and power for no good reason (3) Best QoR This means different things to different users. If you have time and resources, I always encourage users to do multiple runs to identify performance bounds of their runs. For example, you can run without constraint to obtain an area bound. You can run without timing constraint but provide power constraint to obtain a power-bound (in smaller technologies, area and power do not necessarily correlate. The problem is many times users will demand improvements on a given metric and not always know whether or not it is even feasible. (4) Low Power Design Today, CPF can be used to enable several LP techniques beyond clock gating(MSMV, PSO, DVFS, etc.). RC also provides what-if analysis where you can retarget, on-the-fly a block for a different voltage and see the impact without having to re-run a full synthesis. This will not give you best QoR but will provide you a good idea of what can be accomplished. One key thing when doing LP design is ensure you have representative activity vectors. There is limited value in spending lots of time optimizing a design to vectors that may not be representative of the design activity. You know what they say, GIGO... For large, complex designs, DPA (RC + Palladium emulation) provides best solution to quickly and accurately extract desired activity vectors (5) Physical-aware Especially in smaller geometrics, use of physically aware synthesis has become extremely important to reach the best QoR and avoid surprises when handing over your design to P&R (6) on Multi-VT A lot of effort has gone into the RC multi-VT flow and currently our recommendation is to enable multi-VT in synthesis with an understanding of your operating envelope. However, this depends on your backend flow as well since some tools/flows end up undoing the work here and potentially causing more harm than good. It is therefore important that your P&R flow is complimentary to your synthesis solution hope my non-answer helped, gh-
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    grasshopper over 13 years ago
    Hi Suresh, nothing trivial about this question :) As you know, there are multiple ways to skin the cat. The RC write_template command provides a nice mechanism to generate various template for running RC but most of these are feature driven and not goal driven. It shows you for example, how to do retiming, and not necessarily the different things you can do when doing retiming. The goal of RC is to provide best QoR or close to best with the template flows provided. That being said, sometimes user has a need to make changes to squeeze the very last drop on a particular metric. I hate to give you a non-answer but I will. The issue is that there is no one-size fits-all answer when pursuing every last drop of QoR. There is certainly a trade-off user makes between time-to-good results vs. best results. As you know, time is the worst enemy of engineers. I will try to provide some quick suggestions that may be helpful and encourage you to enlist your local support to help you tailor things further: (1) Targets, targets, targets Targets are a key element of RC optimization, make sure you understand them and adjust flow accordingly (2) Constraints Previous generations of MIS/SIS based synthesis tools relied on over-constraining. This is definitely not the right approach to RC. Only over-constraint if you have a valid reason or evidence that it yields better results in your design using RC. Otherwise you are just giving up area and power for no good reason (3) Best QoR This means different things to different users. If you have time and resources, I always encourage users to do multiple runs to identify performance bounds of their runs. For example, you can run without constraint to obtain an area bound. You can run without timing constraint but provide power constraint to obtain a power-bound (in smaller technologies, area and power do not necessarily correlate. The problem is many times users will demand improvements on a given metric and not always know whether or not it is even feasible. (4) Low Power Design Today, CPF can be used to enable several LP techniques beyond clock gating(MSMV, PSO, DVFS, etc.). RC also provides what-if analysis where you can retarget, on-the-fly a block for a different voltage and see the impact without having to re-run a full synthesis. This will not give you best QoR but will provide you a good idea of what can be accomplished. One key thing when doing LP design is ensure you have representative activity vectors. There is limited value in spending lots of time optimizing a design to vectors that may not be representative of the design activity. You know what they say, GIGO... For large, complex designs, DPA (RC + Palladium emulation) provides best solution to quickly and accurately extract desired activity vectors (5) Physical-aware Especially in smaller geometrics, use of physically aware synthesis has become extremely important to reach the best QoR and avoid surprises when handing over your design to P&R (6) on Multi-VT A lot of effort has gone into the RC multi-VT flow and currently our recommendation is to enable multi-VT in synthesis with an understanding of your operating envelope. However, this depends on your backend flow as well since some tools/flows end up undoing the work here and potentially causing more harm than good. It is therefore important that your P&R flow is complimentary to your synthesis solution hope my non-answer helped, gh-
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