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spectre 32 bit or 64 bit?

upengan
upengan over 14 years ago

Hi,

Ok, I am just an administrator. One of my users is adking me, why spectre gets invoked from 32bit directory instead of 64bit. 

 Here is the log snippet,

 Memory  available: 187.1503 MB  physical: 5.8504 GB
CPU(1 of 4):  CPU 0  Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           E5405  @ 2.00GHz  1995.000MHz

Simulating `input.scs' on yamdrok at 12:56:57 PM, Thur Jan 27, 2011 (process id: 32263).
Command line:
    /analog/cadence/mmsim71/tools.lnx86/spectre/bin/32bit/spectre  \
        input.scs +escchars +log ../psf/spectre.out +inter=mpsc  \
        +mpssession=spectre0_31221_4 -format sst2 -raw ../psf  \
        +lqtimeout 900 -maxw 5 -maxn 5
spectre pid = 32263

System is 4 processor,  model name    : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           E5405  @ 2.00GHz

OS also is 64 bit linux,  Cadence (R) Virtuoso (R) Spectre (R) Circuit Simulator version 7.1.0.060.isr4 -- 25 Mar 2009

 

If you need any other i/p let me know. Thank you.

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  • Zach
    Zach over 14 years ago

     By default, all tools get invoked from 32-bit.  To enable 64-bit tools, I place the following in my start up file:

              setenv CDS_AUTO_64BIT  "EXCLUDE:si.exe"

    This invokes everything as 64-bit except for si.exe, which is the tool that exports schematics to CDL netlists. 

    Regards, Zach

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  • upengan
    upengan over 14 years ago

     Thanks Zach. I will give it a try.

     

    What will happen if I don't add  "EXCLUDE:si.exe" ? Will si.exe work or will not work at all or will it work in 32bit mode?

     

    Please let me know. Thanks again.

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  • Andrew Beckett
    Andrew Beckett over 14 years ago

    If using IC614, setting it to "ALL" will be OK because everything is supported in 64 bit mode. Before that, you'll probably find that CDL netlisting will fail, because whilst "si" itself (the standalone netlister) is supported, the contexts for creating auCdl netlists are not supported on 64 bit. 

    Regards,

    Andrew.

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  • upengan
    upengan over 14 years ago

     Thanks Andrew. I believe we are using latest version of IC61x

    The information provided is very useful. I also see IC615 was released on Jan 31,2011, might aswell upgrade to that version then.

      virtuoso -V
    @(#)$CDS: virtuoso version 6.1.4-64b 12/02/2010 23:19 (sjfdl064) $

      virtuoso -W
    sub-version  IC6.1.4-64b.500.10

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  • Andrew Beckett
    Andrew Beckett over 14 years ago

     It's the version of the IC tools that matters here - so what "virtuoso -W" tells you. The simulator is from the "MMSIM" stream, and virtuoso/si are from the "IC" stream.

    Best Regards,

    Andrew.

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  • upengan
    upengan over 14 years ago

     

      virtuoso -V
    @(#)$CDS: virtuoso version 6.1.4-64b 12/02/2010 23:19 (sjfdl064) $

      virtuoso -W
    sub-version  IC6.1.4-64b.500.10

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  • liehuo
    liehuo over 12 years ago

     hello Andrew!

            I am a beginner of Cadence,please tell me how to set spectre to 64 bits detailly,because I do not know where to enter the commands.  best have some pictures,thank you very much!

      best wishes!

     lie huo

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  • Andrew Beckett
    Andrew Beckett over 12 years ago

    In ADE use Setup->Environment and you'll see a form like below. Check the Run with 64 bit binary checkbox, or if that's not there in the version you're using, type "-64" in the usrCmdLineOption field.

    Regards,

    Andrew.

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  • abhierao
    abhierao over 11 years ago

     Hey Andrew,

    I am facing a similar issue with my ADE, i am not able to run simulation due to these errors.  i am running ubuntu 13.1, Please help me fix the issue. I have tried the above methods to run in 64bit mode but didn't work, i tried changing the bin/sh file from DASH to BASH yet the issue persists. 

     
    Error found by spectre during AHDL read-in.
        ERROR (VACOMP-1008): Cannot compile ahdlcmi module library. Check the log file input.ahdlSimDB//bsource.va.bsource_1.ahdlcmi/Linux/../ahdlcmi.out for details. If the compiler ran out of memory, use 'setenv CDS_CMI_COMPLEVEL 0', and try again. If the reason for the failure was a syntax error, contact your Cadence Customer Support representative with the netlist, log files, behavioral model files, and any other information that can help identify the problem.
        ERROR (SFE-91): Error when elaborating the instance bsource_1. Simulation should be terminated.
    Error found by spectre during hierarchy flattening.
        ERROR (SFE-46): "/home/abhinand/work/gpdk045/../models/spectre/gpdk045_mos.scs" 51402: `r1': An instance of `bsource_1' can have at most 0 terminals (but has 2).

    here is my ahdlcmi.out file

     ahdlcmicompile: Compiling ahdlcmi in input.ahdlSimDB//bsource.va.bsource_1.ahdlcmi/Linux/ for Linux with optimize using gcc on Wed Jul  2 07:29:48 IST 2014 [5.0]
    ahdlcmicompile: Generating makefile
    PATH:  /home/abhinand/edatools/mmsim/tools.lnx86/cdsgcc/gcc/4.1/install/bin:/home/abhinand/edatools/mmsim/bin:/home/abhinand/edatools/mmsim/tools/bin:/home/abhinand/edatools/virtuoso/bin:/home/abhinand/edatools/virtuoso/tools/bin:/home/abhinand/edatools/virtuoso/oa_v22.41.022/bin:/home/abhinand/edatools/mmsim/tools/spectre/bin:/home/abhinand/edatools/virtuoso/tools/dfII/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin
    LD_LIBRARY_PATH:  /home/abhinand/edatools/mmsim/tools.lnx86/cdsgcc/gcc/4.1/install/lib:/home/abhinand/edatools/mmsim/tools/giganta/lib:/home/abhinand/edatools/mmsim/tools/mdl/lib:/home/abhinand/edatools/mmsim/tools/mmsim/lib:/home/abhinand/edatools/mmsim/tools/inca/lib:/home/abhinand/edatools/mmsim/tools/spectre/lib:/home/abhinand/edatools/mmsim/tools/dfII/lib:/home/abhinand/edatools/mmsim/tools/lib:/home/abhinand/edatools/virtuoso/tools/lib:/home/abhinand/edatools/virtuoso/oa_v22.41.022/lib/linux_rhel40_gcc44x_32/opt:/home/abhinand/edatools/virtuoso/tools/Qt/32bit/lib:/home/abhinand/edatools/virtuoso/tools/dfII/lib:/home/abhinand/edatools/virtuoso/tools/sev/lib:/home/abhinand/edatools/virtuoso/tools/inca/lib
    /home/abhinand/edatools/mmsim/tools.lnx86/perl/bin/perl: line 10: /home/abhinand/edatools/mmsim/tools.lnx86/perl/bin/cdsPerl: cannot execute binary file
    cp: cannot stat 'devicelisttemp': No such file or directory
    Can't exec "mpstat": No such file or directory at /home/abhinand/edatools/mmsim/tools.lnx86/spectre/ahdlcmi/bin/getCPUnum.pl line 41.
    /home/abhinand/edatools/mmsim/tools.lnx86/spectre/ahdlcmi/bin/gnumake -j2 -f GNUmakefile
    Can't exec "mpstat": No such file or directory at /home/abhinand/edatools/mmsim/tools.lnx86/spectre/ahdlcmi/bin/getCPUnum.pl line 41.
    gnumake: *** No rule to make target `obj/optimize/5.0/bsource_1.o', needed by `obj/optimize/5.0/bsource_1_libahdlcmi.so'.  Stop.
    gnumake: *** No rule to make target `obj/optimize/5.0/bsource_1.o', needed by `obj/optimize/5.0/bsource_1_libahdlcmi.so'.  Stop.

     Please guide me to clear this error.

     Thanks 

    Abhinand

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  • Andrew Beckett
    Andrew Beckett over 11 years ago

    As I have said a number of times on these forums, Ubuntu is not a supported OS. So the way to "clear this error" is to use a supported OS. We cannot realistically provide support on every single distribution of Linux that people feel like using (I'm always amazed that companies want to use expensive professional IC design software, but don't run it on an OS that we say the software has been tested on).

    Anyway, it looks from the messages above as if "cdsPerl" is not running for some reason. If you try running:

    /home/abhinand/edatools/mmsim/tools.lnx86/perl/bin/cdsPerl

    and then type (say):

    print 1+1;

    and enter ctrl-D, what happens? Or does it fail when you run cdsPerl? You didn't say which version of MMSIM you are attempting to use either. The fact that you have a cannot execute binary file is a bit suspicious. What kernel version are you using (what does "uname -a" output)?

    Realistically it would be much better if you used a supported OS.

    Andrew.

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