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Capture vs PCB Editor: Pin number mismatch Error message

Ulf K
Ulf K 11 months ago

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(Capture CIS / OrCAD Layout Prof.)  v. 23.1)

I have a design where the (Capture) Schematic contains two SOT-89 symbols.

Their pins are designated "1", "2", "3"; and "TAB". The corresponding footprint has pads named exactly the same: "1", "2", "3", and "TAB".

Creating the layout, editing it, adding or changing components in the schematic is successfully synchronized every time.

The layout editor opens, it "Pulls" the schematic and the changes are applied.

But: I constantly have two warnings in Capture that the number of pins does not match:

Warning Physical (WARNING OrCAP-2435) Number of pins in footprint "SOT-89" and instance "U3" does not match (Same message for the other, U4...) 

Did some programmer never thought of the possibility that pins could be numbered with other characters than numbers?

Or does Capture and PCB-Editor have different opinions about "numbers" ?

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  • Jeet
    0 Jeet 11 months ago

    WARNING ORCAP-2435 is a physical DRC and it comes when the number of pins in the schematic symbol does not match with the number of pins in the footprint and  alphanumeric pin numbers are case sensitive, so it must be ensured that the pin number's casing should be same in the schematic symbol and the footprint.

    To resolve this physical DRC warning, perform the following steps:

    1. Double-click on the DRC warning in the Online DRC window in OrCAD Capture. This will take you to the part on the schematic and highlight it.
    2. Right-click and choose Edit Part. This will open Capture Symbol Editor (Part Editor).
    3. Right-click and choose Edit Pins or press Shift+H. This will open the Edit Pins dialog box.
    4. Now, compare this with the footprint by opening the footprint file in Allegro PCB Editor.
    5. Choose Display > Status to see the count of Connect pins and Mechanical pins in Allegro PCB Editor.
    6. Compare, the number of pins footprint and in the schematic symbol. 

    Let me know how it goes for you after performing the steps.

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  • Ulf K
    0 Ulf K 11 months ago in reply to Jeet

    Hi Vishwajeet.

    Thanks for responding to my question.

    (23.1 HotFix 007 by the way)

    I followed your instructions to the letter but found no discrepancies in either the schematic symbol nor the footprint.

    No hidden pins or pins set as "Power". All = Passive.

    No mechanical pins in the footprint.

    All pin "numbers" are either numbers or capital letters.

    No leading or trailing whitespaces.

    No DRC's in the Status-canvas in the PCB Editor. DRC's are "Green". Back drills grayed out (no drill holes)

    I am on active support with cadence. I can submit a trouble report but I thought that the forum was the best way to start.

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  • Ulf K
    0 Ulf K 11 months ago in reply to Jeet

    Hi Vishwajeet.

    Thanks for responding to my question.

    (23.1 HotFix 007 by the way)

    I followed your instructions to the letter but found no discrepancies in either the schematic symbol nor the footprint.

    No hidden pins or pins set as "Power". All = Passive.

    No mechanical pins in the footprint.

    All pin "numbers" are either numbers or capital letters.

    No leading or trailing whitespaces.

    No DRC's in the Status-canvas in the PCB Editor. DRC's are "Green". Back drills grayed out (no drill holes)

    I am on active support with cadence. I can submit a trouble report but I thought that the forum was the best way to start.

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  • Jeet
    0 Jeet 11 months ago in reply to Ulf K

    You can contact Cadence Customer Support as it may need data sharing to debug this issue.

    Also, Can you check what is the Part Numbering is it Alphabetic or Numeric in Edit Part Window? 

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  • Ulf K
    0 Ulf K 11 months ago in reply to Ulf K

    Responding to the suggestions below:

    - Part numbering is "Numeric".

    - There are no "Dangles"/No-Connects on/associated with either the schematic symbol, its properties, the instances of them in the schematic or on the corresponding footprint.

    - The design is not connected to the cloud or relies on any downloaded symbol/footprint. CIP is not used for it.

    (I submitted the problem to Cadence support yesterday as "Important" but not a "show stopper".)

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  • MM202410209619
    0 MM202410209619 11 months ago in reply to Jeet

    I was having the same issue and by changing to Numeric it solved the issue the warning went away.

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  • MM202410209619
    0 MM202410209619 11 months ago in reply to MM202410209619

    I forget to mention that there is one Troubleshooting on Cadence Online Support Portal regarding ORCAP-2435.

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  • JS202408156358
    0 JS202408156358 2 months ago in reply to Jeet

    This is an old thread, but I ran into a similar issue. In my case, I had downloaded footprints from Samtec. I found that pins were numbered as "01", "02",... and I had to change the pin text in the footprint to 1, 2,.... and remove the 0 prefix from the single digit numbers.

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