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IPC-D-356A Netlist vs Gerber Files

BaldEngineer
BaldEngineer over 2 years ago

Hi

I was recently informed by my PCB Manufacturer that there is some short, broken connections when they compare Gerber(art) data with IPC-D-356A Netlist data i sent them.

I can't see anything wrong both on Gerber data and my board file.

So, was wondering if there is any way to compare Gerber data with IPC Netlist and find where the fault is(if any)?

Thanks for help.

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  • aniju
    0 aniju over 2 years ago

    I think you may use any gerbers tools like CAM350 to do IPC netlist compare. CAM350 will support netlist compare but you have to to check other CAM tools.

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  • BaldEngineer
    0 BaldEngineer over 2 years ago in reply to aniju

    I think CAM350 is paid. Thinking of using WISE Gertool for comparing.

    Update: Gerbtool is having some issue. So, can't open it.

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  • DavidJHutchins
    0 DavidJHutchins over 2 years ago in reply to BaldEngineer

    The 'Valor' tools have an issue with reading a Cadence Allegro IPC-D-356A netlist correctly because they interpret the spec differently than Cadence, the solution for a client was to output a MentorGraphics neutral-file as the netlist instead of an IPC-D-356A file

    CAM350 can't find complex shorts like Valor or Gerbtool can, I don't trust it as a tool

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  • RFinley
    0 RFinley over 2 years ago in reply to DavidJHutchins

    What is a complex short?

    For ODB, CAM350 is fairly priced for our designs <1500 parts.   

    CAM was an easy tool to justify buying.  When I have to release a P5DS designs, from their ODB export logs: 

    "you have a short.  Which nets is a secret.  Somewhere in that <1000 DRC errors you can't fix, something is touching something else.  Give us more money."

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  • DavidJHutchins
    0 DavidJHutchins over 1 year ago in reply to RFinley

    A complex short is where large pin count power/ground nets are shorted, even Valor can't pinpoint the locations

    I found that the free IC design tool KLayout supports net connectivity checks and allows import of 274x artwork files

    I have used it's internal macro development to write:
      a ruby script to import an ipc-d-356 netlist to add drill holes & netname text,
      a ruby script to compare the connectivity

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