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Solver abruptly stopping/refusing to start

jpatterson
jpatterson over 4 years ago
Hi,
 
This will be a horribly vague question, but I'm stumped. Here's the situation...
 
  1. Full Tractor-Trailer model in A/View 2021.4.
  2. This model has flex bodies, contacts, tires, etc., and has run successfully for years.
  3. That is until some recent changes that included new flex bodies.
  4. I'm running these with the external solver as I have for years, but this one abruptly stops as soon as the solver tries to start. End of the .msg file below...
 
 Begin Simulation
 
 ****** Performing Dynamic Simulation using Gstiff SI2 Integrator ******
  The system is modelled with SI2 DAEs.
  The integrator is GSTIFF, CORRECTOR = modified
  Integration error =  1.000000E-01
 
No error message, nothing. "debug/eprint" didn't show anything either.
 
I feel like I've seen this in the past, and it's an obvious (and dumb) error/mistake I'm making. I can't for the life of me remember what it is. Here's what I've tried/checked, all to no avail...
 
  1. Recreated the flex bodies.
    1. They work fine in a smaller test model.
  2. Made sure my .rdf files were present.
    1. Also tried different road files.
  3. Made sure my .tir files were present.
  4. Wrote the model out as a .cmd, read it back in to a new database.
    1. Read in with no errors.
  5. Double-checked my memory settings - all set to "huge".
  6. Looked for parts with no mass.
 
I could go back to the previous iteration and redo my changes, but it took a while and I really feel I'm missing something silly.
 
Any vague ideas regarding this vague question?
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  • karsten.thielecke
    0 karsten.thielecke over 4 years ago
    Could it be not sufficient disk space or write permissions?
    Did you try the external Solver?
    Anything else written out from Solver?
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  • jpatterson
    0 jpatterson over 4 years ago
    Hi Karsten,
     
    Thanks for the reply.
     
    300GB available on the drive.
    I am running with the external solver, creating .adm, .acf, .bat files on the fly.
    No other messages regardless of "debug/eprint". It just stops cold. Is there any other setting to write any other diagnostics?
     
    Also, I reran a different model configuration, similar size and topology, and it runs fine...(???)
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  • Jan Sotnik
    0 Jan Sotnik over 4 years ago
    Hello jpatterson,
     
    I'd try to deactivate flexibility of all flex parts and see if that makes the model running. If so, I'd make them flexible one by one to sort out which one triggers the solver crash.
     
    Kind regards,
    Jan
     
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  • jpatterson
    0 jpatterson over 4 years ago
    Jan,
     
    Thanks for the reply and idea. I set my new flex bodies to "rigid", the others have been in use for years, but got the same problem.
     
    However, I tried this today...
    1. Opened previous model iteration.
    2. Made sure it would start solving.
    3. Added my new flex body and just fixed it to ground.
    4. The solver started (!?!?!?!?!?!?!).
     
    So, something was changed/deleted/reset in my attempt to update the model earlier this week that won't let the solver start. Still no idea what it was. I'm now off to try again...
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  • karsten.thielecke
    0 karsten.thielecke over 4 years ago
    Hello jpatterson,
     
    is a msg-file created by Solver?
    If yes, is there a return code or does it stop on a specific point?
    If no, it seems that Solver does not start or crashes directly while reading in the model.
    Did you try to start Solver from a Dos or Linux-Shell?
    adams2021_4 ru-sol filename.acf (Windows)
    You should see something in the Dos-Shell if Solver starts, read in the model, etc.
     
    Hope that helps.
     
    Best regards,
    Karsten
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