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Strange numbers in Virtuoso 6.1.5

JulianJ
JulianJ over 13 years ago

 Hello,

I am seeing some strange number errors in Virtuoso 6.1.5.

In the ADE, I type  "1p" as the value for a variable and when set it appears as "1e122", "100f" becomes "1e155", "1f" becomes "1e155".

A similar error is also appearing on the drain diffusion area calculated on the FETs I am placing in my schematics, with the calculated area being displayed and netlisted as "480e155", when I think it should be "480f".

 I tried upgrading my instalation from  IC6.1.5-64b.500.1 to IC6.1.5-64b.500.9, but still have the same problem.

 Any help appreciated.

Julian

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    JulianJ over 13 years ago

     G'day Andrew,

     The other users on the machine are affected by the same bug, they just are not using transistors that are small enough to cause problems. Calculated numbers above 1.2ps appear to be fine.

     Others are still using IC5141 with no problems.

    More playing with the problem has me even more confused.

    If I set an ADE varable to "1f" it displays as "1e155", but when I click on it to edit the value in the edit box is 1f again. Fortunalty this also netlists correctly.

    If I choose to override the drain diffusion area it allows me to replace "480e155" with "480f", which I beleive to be correct. This also netlists correclty - just means that I must update the drain diffusion every time I adjust the width. This is 500.9 - 500.1 keeps the "480e155" even if I type "480f".

    Julian

     > env
    LESSKEY=/etc/lesskey.bin
    NNTPSERVER=news
    MANPATH=/usr/local/man:/usr/share/man
    HOSTNAME=nanosrv
    XKEYSYMDB=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XKeysymDB
    HOST=nanosrv
    TERM=xterm
    SHELL=/bin/bash
    PROFILEREAD=true
    HISTSIZE=1000
    SSH_CLIENT=10.1.3.101 51325 22
    MORE=-sl
    OLDPWD=/data/SIL180/julian
    SSH_TTY=/dev/pts/47
    CDK_DIR=/data/ON06/PDK/NCSU_PDK/
    JRE_HOME=/usr/lib64/jvm/jre
    USER=julian
    LS_COLORS=no=00:fi=00:di=01;34:ln=00;36:pi=40;33:so=01;35:do=01;35:bd=40;33;01:cd=40;33;01:or=41;33;01:ex=00;32:*.cmd=00;32:*.exe=01;32:*.com=01;32:*.bat=01;32:*.btm=01;32:*.dll=01;32:*.tar=00;31:*.tbz=00;31:*.tgz=00;31:*.rpm=00;31:*.deb=00;31:*.arj=00;31:*.taz=00;31:*.lzh=00;31:*.lzma=00;31:*.zip=00;31:*.zoo=00;31:*.z=00;31:*.Z=00;31:*.gz=00;31:*.bz2=00;31:*.tb2=00;31:*.tz2=00;31:*.tbz2=00;31:*.xz=00;31:*.avi=01;35:*.bmp=01;35:*.fli=01;35:*.gif=01;35:*.jpg=01;35:*.jpeg=01;35:*.mng=01;35:*.mov=01;35:*.mpg=01;35:*.pcx=01;35:*.pbm=01;35:*.pgm=01;35:*.png=01;35:*.ppm=01;35:*.tga=01;35:*.tif=01;35:*.xbm=01;35:*.xpm=01;35:*.dl=01;35:*.gl=01;35:*.wmv=01;35:*.aiff=00;32:*.au=00;32:*.mid=00;32:*.mp3=00;32:*.ogg=00;32:*.voc=00;32:*.wav=00;32:
    XNLSPATH=/usr/share/X11/nls
    HOSTTYPE=x86_64
    FROM_HEADER=
    PAGER=less
    CSHEDIT=emacs
    XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/etc/xdg
    MINICOM=-c on
    MAIL=/var/mail/julian
    PATH=/home/julian/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/usr/lib64/jvm/jre/bin:/usr/lib/mit/bin:.:/usr/local/mentor/ixl_cal_2011.1_24.16/bin:/usr/local/cadence/MMSIM101/tools/bin/:/usr/local/cadence/INCISIV102/bin:/usr/local/cadence/INCISIV102/tools/bin:/usr/local/cadence/AUSSURA6/tools/bin/:/usr/local/cadence/AUSSURA6/tools/assura/bin:/usr/local/cadence/IC615/tools/bin/:/usr/local/cadence/IC615/bin/
    CPU=x86_64
    JAVA_BINDIR=/usr/lib64/jvm/jre/bin
    SSH_SENDS_LOCALE=yes
    INPUTRC=/home/julian/.inputrc
    PWD=/data/SIL180/PDK/m6_mim4f_builtin
    JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib64/jvm/jre
    EDITOR=xterm -e /usr/bin/joe
    LANG=en_US.UTF-8
    PYTHONSTARTUP=/etc/pythonstart
    CDS_Netlisting_Mode=Analog
    LM_LICENSE_FILE=5280@cad4.ee.unsw.edu.au:1717@cad4.ee.unsw.edu.au
    PRE_PATH=/home/julian/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/usr/lib64/jvm/jre/bin:/usr/lib/mit/bin:.
    GPG_TTY=/dev/pts/47
    TECHDIR=/data/GF65/PDK/chrt65lpe/Calibre/
    QT_SYSTEM_DIR=/usr/share/desktop-data
    SHLVL=1
    HOME=/home/julian
    SDL_AUDIODRIVER=pulse
    ALSA_CONFIG_PATH=/etc/alsa-pulse.conf
    LESS_ADVANCED_PREPROCESSOR=no
    OSTYPE=linux
    MGC_HOME=/usr/local/mentor/ixl_cal_2011.1_24.16
    LS_OPTIONS=-N --color=tty -T 0
    WINDOWMANAGER=/usr/bin/startkde
    G_FILENAME_ENCODING=@locale,UTF-8,ISO-8859-15,CP1252
    LESS=-M -I -R
    MACHTYPE=x86_64-suse-linux
    LOGNAME=julian
    XDG_DATA_DIRS=/usr/share
    SSH_CONNECTION=10.1.3.101 51325 10.10.1.10 22
    SOCV_KIT_HOME=/usr/local/cadence/INCISIV102
    LESSOPEN=lessopen.sh %s
    DISPLAY=localhost:11.0
    XAUTHLOCALHOSTNAME=nanosrv
    LESSCLOSE=lessclose.sh %s %s
    ASSURAHOME=/usr/local/cadence/AUSSURA6
    INCISIVE=/usr/local/cadence/INCISIV102
    G_BROKEN_FILENAMES=1
    JAVA_ROOT=/usr/lib64/jvm/jre
    COLORTERM=1
    mc=() {  . /usr/share/mc/mc-wrapper.sh
    }
    _=/usr/bin/env

     

    > locale
    LANG=en_US.UTF-8
    LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
    LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"
    LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8"
    LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
    LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8"
    LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
    LC_PAPER="en_US.UTF-8"
    LC_NAME="en_US.UTF-8"
    LC_ADDRESS="en_US.UTF-8"
    LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.UTF-8"
    LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.UTF-8"
    LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.UTF-8"
    LC_ALL=

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  • JulianJ
    JulianJ over 13 years ago

     G'day Andrew,

     The other users on the machine are affected by the same bug, they just are not using transistors that are small enough to cause problems. Calculated numbers above 1.2ps appear to be fine.

     Others are still using IC5141 with no problems.

    More playing with the problem has me even more confused.

    If I set an ADE varable to "1f" it displays as "1e155", but when I click on it to edit the value in the edit box is 1f again. Fortunalty this also netlists correctly.

    If I choose to override the drain diffusion area it allows me to replace "480e155" with "480f", which I beleive to be correct. This also netlists correclty - just means that I must update the drain diffusion every time I adjust the width. This is 500.9 - 500.1 keeps the "480e155" even if I type "480f".

    Julian

     > env
    LESSKEY=/etc/lesskey.bin
    NNTPSERVER=news
    MANPATH=/usr/local/man:/usr/share/man
    HOSTNAME=nanosrv
    XKEYSYMDB=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XKeysymDB
    HOST=nanosrv
    TERM=xterm
    SHELL=/bin/bash
    PROFILEREAD=true
    HISTSIZE=1000
    SSH_CLIENT=10.1.3.101 51325 22
    MORE=-sl
    OLDPWD=/data/SIL180/julian
    SSH_TTY=/dev/pts/47
    CDK_DIR=/data/ON06/PDK/NCSU_PDK/
    JRE_HOME=/usr/lib64/jvm/jre
    USER=julian
    LS_COLORS=no=00:fi=00:di=01;34:ln=00;36:pi=40;33:so=01;35:do=01;35:bd=40;33;01:cd=40;33;01:or=41;33;01:ex=00;32:*.cmd=00;32:*.exe=01;32:*.com=01;32:*.bat=01;32:*.btm=01;32:*.dll=01;32:*.tar=00;31:*.tbz=00;31:*.tgz=00;31:*.rpm=00;31:*.deb=00;31:*.arj=00;31:*.taz=00;31:*.lzh=00;31:*.lzma=00;31:*.zip=00;31:*.zoo=00;31:*.z=00;31:*.Z=00;31:*.gz=00;31:*.bz2=00;31:*.tb2=00;31:*.tz2=00;31:*.tbz2=00;31:*.xz=00;31:*.avi=01;35:*.bmp=01;35:*.fli=01;35:*.gif=01;35:*.jpg=01;35:*.jpeg=01;35:*.mng=01;35:*.mov=01;35:*.mpg=01;35:*.pcx=01;35:*.pbm=01;35:*.pgm=01;35:*.png=01;35:*.ppm=01;35:*.tga=01;35:*.tif=01;35:*.xbm=01;35:*.xpm=01;35:*.dl=01;35:*.gl=01;35:*.wmv=01;35:*.aiff=00;32:*.au=00;32:*.mid=00;32:*.mp3=00;32:*.ogg=00;32:*.voc=00;32:*.wav=00;32:
    XNLSPATH=/usr/share/X11/nls
    HOSTTYPE=x86_64
    FROM_HEADER=
    PAGER=less
    CSHEDIT=emacs
    XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/etc/xdg
    MINICOM=-c on
    MAIL=/var/mail/julian
    PATH=/home/julian/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/usr/lib64/jvm/jre/bin:/usr/lib/mit/bin:.:/usr/local/mentor/ixl_cal_2011.1_24.16/bin:/usr/local/cadence/MMSIM101/tools/bin/:/usr/local/cadence/INCISIV102/bin:/usr/local/cadence/INCISIV102/tools/bin:/usr/local/cadence/AUSSURA6/tools/bin/:/usr/local/cadence/AUSSURA6/tools/assura/bin:/usr/local/cadence/IC615/tools/bin/:/usr/local/cadence/IC615/bin/
    CPU=x86_64
    JAVA_BINDIR=/usr/lib64/jvm/jre/bin
    SSH_SENDS_LOCALE=yes
    INPUTRC=/home/julian/.inputrc
    PWD=/data/SIL180/PDK/m6_mim4f_builtin
    JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib64/jvm/jre
    EDITOR=xterm -e /usr/bin/joe
    LANG=en_US.UTF-8
    PYTHONSTARTUP=/etc/pythonstart
    CDS_Netlisting_Mode=Analog
    LM_LICENSE_FILE=5280@cad4.ee.unsw.edu.au:1717@cad4.ee.unsw.edu.au
    PRE_PATH=/home/julian/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/usr/lib64/jvm/jre/bin:/usr/lib/mit/bin:.
    GPG_TTY=/dev/pts/47
    TECHDIR=/data/GF65/PDK/chrt65lpe/Calibre/
    QT_SYSTEM_DIR=/usr/share/desktop-data
    SHLVL=1
    HOME=/home/julian
    SDL_AUDIODRIVER=pulse
    ALSA_CONFIG_PATH=/etc/alsa-pulse.conf
    LESS_ADVANCED_PREPROCESSOR=no
    OSTYPE=linux
    MGC_HOME=/usr/local/mentor/ixl_cal_2011.1_24.16
    LS_OPTIONS=-N --color=tty -T 0
    WINDOWMANAGER=/usr/bin/startkde
    G_FILENAME_ENCODING=@locale,UTF-8,ISO-8859-15,CP1252
    LESS=-M -I -R
    MACHTYPE=x86_64-suse-linux
    LOGNAME=julian
    XDG_DATA_DIRS=/usr/share
    SSH_CONNECTION=10.1.3.101 51325 10.10.1.10 22
    SOCV_KIT_HOME=/usr/local/cadence/INCISIV102
    LESSOPEN=lessopen.sh %s
    DISPLAY=localhost:11.0
    XAUTHLOCALHOSTNAME=nanosrv
    LESSCLOSE=lessclose.sh %s %s
    ASSURAHOME=/usr/local/cadence/AUSSURA6
    INCISIVE=/usr/local/cadence/INCISIV102
    G_BROKEN_FILENAMES=1
    JAVA_ROOT=/usr/lib64/jvm/jre
    COLORTERM=1
    mc=() {  . /usr/share/mc/mc-wrapper.sh
    }
    _=/usr/bin/env

     

    > locale
    LANG=en_US.UTF-8
    LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
    LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"
    LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8"
    LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
    LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8"
    LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
    LC_PAPER="en_US.UTF-8"
    LC_NAME="en_US.UTF-8"
    LC_ADDRESS="en_US.UTF-8"
    LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.UTF-8"
    LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.UTF-8"
    LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.UTF-8"
    LC_ALL=

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