• Skip to main content
  • Skip to search
  • Skip to footer
Cadence Home
  • This search text may be transcribed, used, stored, or accessed by our third-party service providers per our Cookie Policy and Privacy Policy.

  1. Community Forums
  2. Custom IC Design
  3. How to plot something vs Vov

Stats

  • Locked Locked
  • Replies 4
  • Subscribers 125
  • Views 17504
  • Members are here 0
This discussion has been locked.
You can no longer post new replies to this discussion. If you have a question you can start a new discussion

How to plot something vs Vov

Pyroblast
Pyroblast over 9 years ago

Hi guys,

I am exploring the gm/id methodology.

It happens that I managed to plot gm/id vs vgs and now I would like to plot the gm/id vs vov. I tried plotting by using the calculator but I didn't get a proper result.

Then I thought that I could plot the Vdsat vs Vgs and from here try to use some cadence feature to plot the gm/id vs Vdst.

I don;t know if Vdsat is the same as Vov. Can someone confirm? Is that the correct way to do it?

What can I do plot then gm/id vs Vdsat?

Regards.

  • Cancel
Parents
  • Andrew Beckett
    Andrew Beckett over 9 years ago

    I'd not come across the term Vov before (even in my life as a designer) but a bit of light googling shows that it's Vgs-Vt - which is not the same as Vdsat (this shows up in a search for "vov voltage" too). You have vth in the operating point parameters (of bsim4 at least, as you do vgs and vdsat) so w bit of computation would allow you to plot gm/id vs (vgs-vth).

    It's amazing what Google can find...

    Regards,

    Andrew.

    • Cancel
    • Vote Up 0 Vote Down
    • Cancel
Reply
  • Andrew Beckett
    Andrew Beckett over 9 years ago

    I'd not come across the term Vov before (even in my life as a designer) but a bit of light googling shows that it's Vgs-Vt - which is not the same as Vdsat (this shows up in a search for "vov voltage" too). You have vth in the operating point parameters (of bsim4 at least, as you do vgs and vdsat) so w bit of computation would allow you to plot gm/id vs (vgs-vth).

    It's amazing what Google can find...

    Regards,

    Andrew.

    • Cancel
    • Vote Up 0 Vote Down
    • Cancel
Children
No Data

Community Guidelines

The Cadence Design Communities support Cadence users and technologists interacting to exchange ideas, news, technical information, and best practices to solve problems and get the most from Cadence technology. The community is open to everyone, and to provide the most value, we require participants to follow our Community Guidelines that facilitate a quality exchange of ideas and information. By accessing, contributing, using or downloading any materials from the site, you agree to be bound by the full Community Guidelines.

© 2025 Cadence Design Systems, Inc. All Rights Reserved.

  • Terms of Use
  • Privacy
  • Cookie Policy
  • US Trademarks
  • Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information