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plotting in Kelvin instead of Celsius for temperature sweep

sidm
sidm over 4 years ago

Hi ALL,

can you please suggest how can I change the scale of a temperature sweep plot from Celsius to Kelvin ? I did set the units to Kelvin in ADE-L but that didn't seem to help to change the X axis (temperature) scale.

thank you

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    Andrew Beckett over 4 years ago

    Setting the units on the temperature form doesn't change what you're sweeping - it merely makes it easier to set a single temperature. The units in spectre are always Celsius.

    You can easily achieve what you want in ADE L (assuming you're doing a DC sweep here) by doing:

    1. Create a variable called "kelvin" with value (say) 300
    2. Create a variable called "tempC" with value kelvin-273.152
    3. On the Setup->Temperature form, set the temperature in degrees to VAR("tempC")
    4. In the DC analysis, rather than sweeping temperature, sweep a variable and sweep kelvin from (say) 230 to 390.

    Voila! (this example is just the current through a resistor with some made up temperature coefficients just to provoke some kind of interesting simulation results):

    Andrew

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  • Andrew Beckett
    Andrew Beckett over 4 years ago

    Setting the units on the temperature form doesn't change what you're sweeping - it merely makes it easier to set a single temperature. The units in spectre are always Celsius.

    You can easily achieve what you want in ADE L (assuming you're doing a DC sweep here) by doing:

    1. Create a variable called "kelvin" with value (say) 300
    2. Create a variable called "tempC" with value kelvin-273.152
    3. On the Setup->Temperature form, set the temperature in degrees to VAR("tempC")
    4. In the DC analysis, rather than sweeping temperature, sweep a variable and sweep kelvin from (say) 230 to 390.

    Voila! (this example is just the current through a resistor with some made up temperature coefficients just to provoke some kind of interesting simulation results):

    Andrew

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    sidm over 4 years ago in reply to Andrew Beckett

    thanks a lot Andrew for the cool ! trick.

    Request one more suggestion from you. I tried sweeping starting from -273degC or even at -200degC and see DC convergence issues causing simulation errors. The circuit is basically an opamp and few diodes.

    I have ++aps mode enabled

    Any workarounds for this ?

    regards

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  • Andrew Beckett
    Andrew Beckett over 4 years ago in reply to sidm

    I've no idea what models you are using, but have your models been characterised at cryogenic temperatures? Most foundries don't characterise at such low temperatures (and a fraction of a degree above absolute zero is quite optimistic for reasonable results anyway). I expect the models become non-physical at such extreme temperatures, leading to convergence problems.

    ++aps is unlikely to have anything to do with it.

    Andrew.

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  • sidm
    sidm over 4 years ago in reply to Andrew Beckett

    ok thanks Andrew

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